I'm running my rear off. I am making money, a lot of money, greater than my expectations. In orientation, the Driver Coordinators asked what we expected. I said about $1,000.00. They said OK, but that might be a little high in this economy. I am making double that and more. If this keeps up, I will be spoiled.
I am getting some breaks and I know it, but on the other hand, I am a very hard worker, I will do what it takes to get the job done and sometimes more, I am proactive, at times making my own breaks, I am an opportunist.
I am not unique, Triple Six and Sinister are two other hard workers. I haven't met them, just read their post. I am not leaving anyone out intentionally, these are two recent ATS posters. You can find the same sort of driver in many other companies. We have good work ethics and good attitudes. We are successful based on our abilities, not failures base on the shortcommings of others.
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I am new to the percentage pay. I like it. Heading to your neck of the woods, New Braunfels. -
Where are you going in New Braunsfels? I heading for ND tomorrow. I was sticking around here, local because of the 25,000 miles for the quarter with 1,000 or less per load average paying at $1.05, but I found out today that all pay, OD, Trarp, Arbitration pay counted. I'm over that average. I gotta get out of this heat and I'm from Texas. -
The reason why I was able to do percentage is because I brought my own rig to the party. I was thinking that by being on percentage I wouldnt run as hard as I was. I figure in the bounce with the loaded miles and even so, I'm still doing well.
This is going to be one of those loads from hell. I dont even know what it is. Seems to happen alot. Those customs people will ask me what I am pulling and I just say that I dont know. They ask for a description and I point to the trailer. They look at the stuff and tell me to go on through, LOL.
Terry, if I run into you, I will introduce you to some of the guys and share war stories with you. Howling Wolf, if you like to truck, come on over. No promises, but they always have freight, and we're always moving. I dont think Ive ever seen a company with people (dispatchers and drivers) that work as hard as some of the ATS crew. Good place for an aggressive trucker. Bad place for one of those metrosexual truck drivers who want respect but not willing to dig in and work and get their nails dirty.
Some people wont go to the northeast, wont go to Baltimore, wont get a TWIC card, wont go past 1-35 out west, wont go above I-80, wont tarp, wont be on time for a delivery, wont drive more than 350 miles per day...
...and complain that they sit alot and dont make any money. Last spring, up in Canada, there was a bunch of O/Os who got pissed off because the receiver wanted them to wait for better weather before unloading, offered $1000 a day to the truck, detention pay for them to sit. Some of the guys got pissed off and bobtailed back to the States. The rest of them checked into a hotel and sat for 7 days and had a big ol time.
Theres always a reason why some driver starts crying and bellyaching about not making money. If you talk to him for just 5 minutes, you will figure it out.Sinister Thanks this. -
LOL Let me tell you what TripleSix. When I finally buy a truck your going to be my business consultant. We think too much alike.
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Get this:
Loaded Friday in UT, 2600 miles. Dropped the load Monday morning. Called the FM and she tells me that her other truck was still 1900 miles out. 700 miles in 3 days...wow. Called my FM this morning and tell her that my unload appointment is for Friday at 0800. She tells me that her other truck is still 800 miles out. Think he can make it by Friday?
If youre on mileage and have a 2600 mile load, thats 2600x$0.83=$2158. Pick it up Friday and drop it Monday (next business day) thats $2158/2=$1079 a day. $1000 a day gross is a good day any way you look at it.
But if you go Friday(1)Monday(2)Tuesday(3)Wednesday(4)Thursday(5)Friday(6), thats $2158/6=$359 a day. Thats decent pay for a company driver...but sux royally for an L/O. You cant even pay for fuel let alone make the truck payment. Want to send money to the house?
You dont have to kill yourself to make money as a L/O, but you do have to run consistantly. All the rest of the trucks showed up last night at the truckstop last night. $2158/4=$539 a day. My minimum is $500 a day. If I cant do $500 a day minimum, theres no point in me being out here.
Now for the bad news: If you are trucking and making just the minimum needed to stay afloat, when you go home, you will sink into a hole. And because you do just the minimum, once you get behind, you stay behind. So you roll for weeks on end without drawing a paycheck. Bills pile up and you sink faster.
I did 2600 miles in 4 days. Thats 650 miles per day. Nothing illegal and not killing myself. To deliver that load on Tuesday would have required just 520 miles per day. 8 hours driving a day. Easy day. Leaves you plenty of time to trash around. Noone delivered Tuesday?
When you hear a driver say that a company sux and that he couldnt make any money with them, do the math. Even if you sit 3 days a week, you should be able to make it. -
Viexpress Thanks this.
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What I believe has been said on here more than enough times is that the van division leaves a lot to be desired and on the specialized/heavy haul side of the house, if you are willing to work then the money is there to be made. As far as your rediculous notation that "Guys like me that were always on time and never turned loads down should have been put on the good accounts so they wouldn't have lost them.No you know what they did?guys with track records of being late were given those loads that is why they lost accounts like ikea."
I am so sick of hearing this nonsense. There are so many drivers that only see things from their seat. Do I deny that instances such as what you stated happen? No of course I do not. However if a driver is sitting in an area where the company has a dedicated account, and more to the point if he is the only one there. Well he's getting the load. The company hopes he does right by both the company was well as the customer. It's rediculous to say that any company just runs itself into the ground on purpose. That's like saying your two months behind on your bills and instead of making your bills your go out and blow your cash. Basically solidifying your financial instability. Why would any carrier do that? I don't know but I hear plenty of drivers on here tossing around that accusation. What I don't understand is you started out making a fairly valid point. You seem to be intelligent and a hard worker to boot. However yes you where a van driver so guess what? You get lumped in with them. What I don't understand is you admitted to making good money with the a few years ago. For the most part I see lots of posts on here from plenty of drivers that are making a good deal of money on the flat side of the house. Why didn't you just switch over? -
how are the normal flatbed guys doing? im not real interested in O.D. Are they getting miles? im real interested to come to ATS but im not gonna go if i cant get the miles to pay for the truck and put food in my mouth.
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