Attorney video if surrounded by a mob

That’s what works for Dem.

 

Once again that old gem of "no u".

 

Only when it’s useful.

 

You and I will probably never agree on racism because we have two very different life experiences. But racism isn't what this thread is about. It's not about immigration either. Or feminism or gender or sexuality.

This thread was created to instill fear and justify force.

Historically, use of force has only been permitted when retreat is not an option. It was a key idea in John Adam's defense of British troops in the Boston Massacre trials. The concept of duty to retreat is notably ignored in Scalia's Heller opinion. Since then the idea of "stand your ground" has grown to the point where preemptive offensive action is being advised. The first piece of advice in this thread is to collect media reports, videos, social media reports that will justify a person's fear. Not "be aware of your surroundings" or "leave yourself an out" - it's "create justification to overreact". It reeks of "that kid whistled at my wife so I'm justified in beating him to death".

Ferguson, George Floyd, and Kenosha all have evidence of 'conservative' agitators instigating violence which justify excessive use of force. In the analysis of the George Floyd reactions, police departments that engaged with the protesters and worked to make the protests peaceful were largely successful while police departments that reacted antagonistically experienced violence and destruction.

We've known this since the 68 DNC Riots. Chicago did everything it could to create a volatile situation. Denying of permits, blocking the placement of port-o-johns, excessive enforcement of minor violations etc. In one pre-convention protest that was denied a permit marchers walked on the sidewalk. When a marshal picked up a trash can that got knocked over he was arrested. As the march approached Daley Plaza people bunched up which resulted in crosswalks being blocked. Police responded with violence. According to the OP and many others in this thread, not only is the police violence legitimate, a person would be justified in running over the marchers because they didn't have a permit and the person had a "protest violence porn" folder.

From the Declaration of Independence

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people​

We either accept that protesting is an American right, or we don't. If we don't, then violence and revolution occur.

From the perspective of a truck driver who unexpectedly finds themselves in the midst of social unrest the best advice is to set the brakes and lock the doors. 99 times out of 100 the driver will not experience any harm.

 

Sorry Six, you are completely wrong here.

While originally designed for the Army of Northern Virginia, it was adopted by all Confederate Armies.

The Confederacy's entire point was the continuation of slavery. While many of the secession orders mentioned other causes and sometimes used veiled references to defense of “life and property,” none of the secessionists was shy about making some reference to slavery as a primary cause for their revolution. You can say "states rights" all you'd like, but the southern states were against the idea of nullification when it came to the Fugative Slave Law and Dred Scott. The Confederate Constitution specifically denies the ability of any state to regulate slavery. In the post war era, the "Southern Cross" was used by paramilitary groups opposing reconstruction. It is the flag used by the Klan and Neo-Nazis. Attempts to normalize it are transparent attempts to normalize racism.

If people want to fly the flag of the Confederacy to show their support of State's Rights - fine. In fact, I'm all on board because the flag of the Confederacy isn't used by ANYBODY.

I say this as a kid who loved the Dukes of Hazard. Before I knew what the Dukes of Hazard was, I had a General Lee pedal car. I still have it. When I hear "Dixie", the first memory I have is of that toy. Those fond memories don't mean that the Confederate Battle Flag isn't a racist symbol.

 

No sir, I am not wrong. Didn’t say anything about states rights. I said House of Representatives. Not slavery, not racist groups. The primary focus was a power struggle for the US House of Representatives. Everything else was a distant second place.

In fact, it’s the same exact reason why some today want the southern border either opened or closed. The history books can put their moral high ground spin on it, but the primary reason still remains. It’s a fat cat power struggle for the House.