Authority Operators need to standup against this broker market and warehouse workers!!!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by workinghard, Oct 13, 2022.

  1. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    The first two are priorities being pushed by big companies and have been for two decades.

    The third is a function of macro economic forces, not governmental. And for every governmental action taken in the last year and a half I can point to an action the oil companies have taken to drive prices up.

    Finally, if you think government has control over freight rates, think again. More trucks, fewer loads, supply and demand.
     
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  3. Joepoe85

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    I knew the answers. I was just trying to see why he thought the way. Obviously just a waste a time. Haha
     
  4. Long FLD

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    Diesel is more expensive than gas due to the refining process of ULSD. It’s no longer simply a by product of refining gasoline.
     
  5. Siinman

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    I can remember not to long ago that diesel was cheaper than gas because of supply and demand.
     
  6. Long FLD

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    I’m not sure of the whole process, I think the gasoline comes off first when they heat the crude. We used to deliver to the refinery in Ponca City OK when I pulled pneumatic and a guy there said with ULSD once the diesel comes off then it has to go through another process I think with hydrogen or something to pull the sulfur out of the fuel. It’s above my pay grade but something about the sulfur will bond with the hydrogen I think. All I took away from it is there’s a whole other addition process for ULSD that didn’t used to be there and that’s why we see the difference in price with gasoline and why the “diesel is a byproduct of gas” argument is no longer valid.
     
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  7. Siinman

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    You have the right idea it does come off at different temps. Also a lot of it depends on what oil they use as well. I know the heavy oil cost more to make fuel vs our oil from TX> I am not sure anymore but guess I am still right for the most part. Our refiners are better set up for the crude heavy instead of our own oil to make Fuel. If we would invest in a few more refineries in us fuel would be cheaper as well.
     
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  8. Siinman

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    https://dec.alaska.gov/air/anpms/ultra-low-sulfur-diesel/refining-process/
     
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  9. MartinFromBC

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    DEF, diesel, tires, parts, labor, shop, taxes, office staff, insurance, acquisition of new/used trailers and trucks, chains, straps, welders, and more, makes trucking expensive.

    So who better should understand that running a business is expensive.
    But then those same people feel that Brokers should struggle and starve on scraps.
     
  10. rch10007

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    Keep offering what you SHOULD be paid and it will drive the “average” rates back up.

    The brokers have been playing this game with the software since the beginning of the year.
     
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