Autonomous trucks, what if sensor fails & an accident occurs?

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  1. WildTiger1990

    WildTiger1990 Heavy Load Member

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    When it comes to money , you think someone give a crap about people? Nope.
    Look on Walmart, it completely destroyed small local stores! Someone cared? Nope.
    Look on Amazon which destroying malls, someone care? Nope.
    Big corporation ( trucks manufacturers , Google etc) simply don't give a crap about you, me, or anyone else besides those 100- 200 rich investors who want to see profit in everything
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Just read the first paragraph
    Industrial Hemp Farming Act of 2009 - Wikipedia
    What exactly do you think would happen if industrial hemp was legal? You'd destroy a myriad of other industries. It would be more efficient. So why ban it?
     
  4. WildTiger1990

    WildTiger1990 Heavy Load Member

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    I ddon' know maybe I am to stupid , so can you explain what control of cannabis have to do to with autonomous trucks? Where is parallels?
     
  5. TheStopSignGuy

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    Doesn't matter what's going to happen, having an other set of skills in something is always better nevertheless. Better to be prepared than "knowing better". AI research has been increased drastically in the past couple of years, I'm sure it can figure it out how to drive a truck... As for those hardcore roads, yeah sure humans will still be needed for it, but most truckers don't haul logs down the mountains and the competition will be fierce. Just keep your eyes open, it's not a matter of IF it's a matter of WHEN.
     
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  6. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    The kind that can be used for lots of industrial purposes doesn't get you high
     
  7. TheStopSignGuy

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    "An analysis of the history of technology shows that technological change is exponential, contrary to the common-sense “intuitive linear” view. So we won’t experience 100 years of progress in the 21st century — it will be more like 20,000 years of progress (at today’s rate). The “returns,” such as chip speed and cost-effectiveness, also increase exponentially. There’s even exponential growth in the rate of exponential growth. Within a few decades, machine intelligence will surpass human intelligence, leading to The Singularity — technological change so rapid and profound it represents a rupture in the fabric of human history. The implications include the merger of biological and nonbiological intelligence, immortal software-based humans, and ultra-high levels of intelligence that expand outward in the universe at the speed of light."
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    Ray Kurzweil, 2001

    The whole essay is here: The Law of Accelerating Returns | Kurzweil

    This guy is a Director of Engineering at Google, has some pretty interesting inventions and views.


    This is what I tried to say in my previous comments, I am just not that articulate lol.


    Edit: Of Course a lot of it is just futurism, but the rate technology is advancing is way quicker than most people realize.
     
  8. SteerTire

    SteerTire Road Train Member

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    1973 - Motorola advances chip design with 25mghz processor.

    1993 - Compaq offers 25mghz processors on their Presario PC’s. With a blazing fast 1.4 baud modem and 4 megs of RAM

    1995 - MS introduces Windows 95 designed to kill the newly introduced 100mghz processors.
     
  9. HELLBENTDENT

    HELLBENTDENT Bobtail Member

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    Where's JOHN CONNER....?
     
  10. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Fully autonomous trucks for all environments and conditions will most likely never be realized. Ever. But for the vast majority of freight movement via limited access highways, I believe it is not very far off. In order for the systems to work, they have to know where they are and what to do. There are semi-autonomous systems that can do a pretty good job of this now. One of the most promising, and IMHO the way to go, is what Cadillac released about a year-and-a-half ago; Super Cruise.

    The Cadillac system is different because it only works on selected highways which have been mapped (and are continuously re-mapped) to a resolution of two inches (IIRC, from an article I read awhile ago). It also requires the driver to remain engaged by using a camera system in the steering wheel to monitor the driver's awareness. I was working on a pipeline project in Chile in 2016 and all of the contractor's pickup trucks had a similar system to combat driver fatigue. The limited amount I was exposed to it, it seemed to perform as intended.

    One of the distinct disadvantages of the Cadillac system is that it must be able to see lane markings. Apparently it will work to some degree in winter, but I haven't really read a lot on it, so I am not aware of its specific limitations. Of course physical markings can eventually be enhanced by in-road sensors, etc. This type of system has been in use in factories and closed road systems for a very long time.

    A "best" approach would likely be a combination of various systems, but the building blocks are within reach now. It is just a matter of improvement and refinement.

    Some randomly selected articles if your so inclined:

     
  11. mudflap77

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    I would bet that is a far lower number and percentage compared to human operated!!
     
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