Backing up a fuel truck, with a trailer attached need help

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Oa707, Jun 1, 2025 at 2:30 AM.

  1. Oa707

    Oa707 Bobtail Member

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    Hi I'm new to fuel hauling, but have 4 years experience otherwise dry van flat bed and can back a trailer with the best of them.

    This new job the set up is a truck with a tank sitting on it, pulling a trailer. Trailer connects to a fifth wheel dolly that connects to truck via pintle hook so there's two moving points.
    -i can't back bCking it at all. Granted I haven't tried a lot but at gas stations from what I've seen in training you might have to back a little. I tried to practice a little in the parking lot and I'm baffled.
    -any advice or tips? Attached is a example pic
     

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  3. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    So you get into a new trucking job with no experience in that type of trucking?
    Did they not train you with this equipment, or did you tell them you had the experience when you really did not?

    Or is this just another one of your nonsense threads that you get off on?
     
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  4. Oa707

    Oa707 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for responding with no actual help given other than passive aggressive shots. Do you actually have any experience with this where you could help out? Maybe if I answer your questions.
    -no experience in fuel hauling as stated in the post
    -im in my second week of training
    -they hired me with full knowledge that I'm new to fuel hauling and are giving me a chance which I am extremely thankful for, as I've been otr majority of my career and happy to get a Local job that pays well and I'm home every day.

    My trainer has given me some tips but It hasn't been clicking And I thought I'd ask and maybe someone can explain it in a way that might make sense and help me out. Being I'm on my on week 2 of 6-8 weeks of training I might be jumping the gun a little but it's something that's been bothering me and I want to understand it. I'm new to this and want to be good at it and take it very seriously. I have no accidents or tickets on my record and plan to keep it that way. Thanks
     
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  5. Diesel Dave

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    What your driving is called “Truck and Trailer”(T&T). Second, to back up, don’t follow the trailer, follow the wheels on the “Dolly” what you define as the “fifth wheel”. It takes practice.
     
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    1st, welcome, I don't want you to get off on a bad start here, most want to help. Some are a bit cranky, but mean well or they wouldn't be here in the 1st place. What you are trying to do, is like pushing a chain. It's essentially the same as a set of doubles, and while only the longest employed drivers at CornFlakes (CF) could do it, it's pretty hard. Most drop the dolly and 2nd trailer and put them in a dock separately, but a tank takes a bit more preplanning. In other words, don't get in a situation where you have to back up. Not having 2 5th wheels, or a "set of joints", might be a bit easier, but I don't think all the practice in the world can help. I've seen straight trucks pulling a wagon, mostly California, and wondered how they back those up. Come to think of it, not sure why you'd have to back up a tanker anyway? Good luck.:thumbup:
     
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  7. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    It isn't fuel hauling, it is truck and trailer skills or lack of.

    Below is the best advice, but I would consider by week 6, if you haven't gotten it, see if they can get you into a different truck combination.

     
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    How to handle a 25 m truck and full trailer.




    Student reverses trailer towards gate. 2025. Last week of internship.
     
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  9. Long FLD

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    The simple answer is it’s the opposite of backing a single trailer. With a single trailer if you turn your wheel to the right while backing the back of your trailer will go to the left. With a truck/trailer set up if you turn your wheel to the right while backing the back of your trailer will go to the right. It will also take less input from the steering wheel because the tongue on the trailer is short and your pull trailer is short.

    If the company has a truck and will allow it I’d say go in on your days off and just practice at the yard. When I drove flatbed the company had B trains and 40/20 A trains and sometimes those guys would have someone park their truck wonky at the yard and then they’d get in to see if they could back out of where it was. The hardest part will be to retrain your brain if you’re used to backing long single trailers.
     
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    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Granted this is overseas, but watch what direction his steer axle turns to get the trailer started in the direction he wants to go.

     
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  11. Lazer

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    Pulled a California Double(that’s what I was told this setup is called) for years. Practice and time, you will get the hang of it. A couple of hints, do not pull up close to anything on your sides until you get more experience. When backing, if things go haywire, pull forward as soon as things are going wrong, and try again. And most importantly, do not ‘drive head first into a situation’, if you can’t back into it you’ll never be able back out of it.
    Once you get the hang out, you’ll never want to pull a long bore tanker(or box) ever again.
     
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