Bad start to a new year

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by razor1983, Jan 2, 2014.

  1. Ed G

    Ed G Light Load Member

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    If your truck is older than a 1995, it is compliant until Jan 2016. If it is newer, you are S O L, unless you can fall under the 5,000 mile exemption. I figured my last 3 years, and average 9000 miles a year in Granolafornia. Kind of sucks, but bought a compliant truck out of Washington, that's good until 2023. Maybe by that time I'll be old enough to retire.
     
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  3. Mniesen89

    Mniesen89 Light Load Member

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    Does anyone know how this will effect prices across the board? As the way I see it, you will have a definite reduction in trucks coming into California which will obviously supply less goods to the state resulting in higher demand.
     
  4. Ubu

    Ubu Road Train Member

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    There’s a lot of confusion with that proposed exemption. It apparently says that the truck can only travel 5,000 miles per year total in any state, not just California to qualify. It allows out of state trucks to be exempt if they travel less than 1,000 miles in California.

    It is just a proposal right now from what I have read; they are considering it at CARB’s April 2014 board meeting.

    From http://www.landlinemag.com/Story.aspx?StoryID=26203#.UsYZ83CA2mQ,

    I’m not sure if there have been any changes since that was printed or not.
     
  5. Blu_Ogre

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    Maybe with specialty freight. The Megas are all set , compliant, and willing to underbid each other......

    Kinda doubt they would even notice the change in quantity of available trucks after a couple of months.
     
  6. mickey melon

    mickey melon Medium Load Member

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    Ok...So in light of what I see.......I can travel in California up to 1,000 miles without being a bad boy.

    Good..I only plan on maybe a few trips to Cali anyway..Maybe 7-800 miles total
     
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  7. Ed G

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    That is what I am hoping for. I'm a specialty hauler, and most of the other guys doing this kind of hauling can't seem to get their financial house in order, to be able to up grade trucks. With a lower amount of trucks available to haul their loads to Cali, the rates will go up eventually. At least that is what everyone is saying. Time will tell on that score. I'm hoping rates will go up about .50cpm by the end of Feb 2014. If everyone that hauls into Ca. would refuse to haul the cheap loads, than the rates will come up for everyone, including the big companies. As O/O's we can't stay in business only making 10 cpm profit like Swift or Knight, or any of the big guys.
     
  8. rockyroad74

    rockyroad74 Heavy Load Member

    Alabama coil cert. was for coil loads shipped from or delivered to Alabama. I got mine, and thought coil rates would increase. That was wishful thinking. They didn't change a bit due to the increased regulation. No biggie, as I rarely load coils in or out of Alabama anyway.

    I think it's a good example though for guys that think California rates will increase because if CARB. Wishful thinking.
    But, luckily I don't need CA to make money. In fact, I do better on the Eastern half of the country.

    Maybe CARB will be defeated in court, or maybe the increased costs of truck ownership by and large will push rates up nationwide. I can't see them staying the same or going down. The numbers barely work as is in general freight.
     
  9. Ubu

    Ubu Road Train Member

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    True. My point was that the FMCSA told Alabama they could not enforces that for out of state truck drivers. They could do like New York dose and require it for Alabama CDL holders but not for drivers from other states. From what I understand Alabama just dropped it completely after the FMCSA ruling.

    I’m not holding my breath waiting from them to rule CARB unenforceable for out of state tucks but it is possible that they will; only time will tell.
     
  10. bigdogpile

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    It's NOT gonna be as easy as saying I only drive less than a 1000 miles in calif..you will have to apply for a permit, then you will have to document your shipper and reciever and they also have to be authorized to load & unload you or they will be fined too..I'm telling you I live here,have been here my whole life..they got this #### covered pertty good..I dont agree with it,I'm just sharing with you what I hear from being here..
     
  11. bigdogpile

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    See calif is going after the shippers too,and shippers will not load non-compliant trucks..CARB has been doing this for years with gas hauling tankers...you cant get a tank loaded at the racks if your tanker is not CARB certified..They are working on a huge "data-bank" that is linked up to all kinds of shippers,recievers,& law enforcement at all levels..ie.city,county,state & DOT..Enforcement will NOT be a problem for these money hungry prickks...10/4...
     
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