Becoming an O/O after SAP

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by PoliRath, Jun 28, 2025 at 5:20 AM.

  1. PoliRath

    PoliRath Bobtail Member

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    My SAP said I could complete the RTD process by getting drug tested for 12 months thru the consortium if this is what your referring to. I was planning on doing it this way regardless of whether I actually decide to buy a truck or not because it will be quicker than waiting for a company to hire me.
     
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  3. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    I didn't realize you'd have that very loose end tied up before you started your business. After that's all taken care of it'll be a nonissue.

    I still wouldn't advise starting a business without a customer though. Running spot freight for brokers is a failing venture even when the market is good because the bad is longer than when it's jumping.

    The up cycles don't match the down turns so you sink more and more over time instead of overnight. The slow progression makes the owner think it's not that bad but ultimately it is.

    There are better things to do with your savings instead of slowly spending it to fund your failing business.
     
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  4. Vampire

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    Gold (real money, and a means of exchange for thousands of years…plus constitutional for a reason) and real estate (multi family buildings) are solid. Meanwhile, the dollar on the other hand isn’t.

    Purchasing real estate should be done with a keen eye on what you’re buying and where. The eviction process can be simple and straightforward in a state like Florida that respects property rights, on to disastrous in a place like NY that despises property rights and private ownership.

    I purchased gold when it was 1600 an ounce. Imagine if I would have took your advice and just put that fiat money in a safe instead.


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  5. LoneRanger

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    trucking has become an entry level job. No skills needed anymore to be a driver.

    you’ll do better off being a electrician or plumber specially if your certified.
     
  6. Someguywithquestions

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    Gold is an absolutely abysmal investment. It's little more as than a scam for investments. Talk to a any financial advisor about gold as an investment and you'll be laughed out of their office.

    Stocks vs. Gold and Silver - Updated Chart | Longtermtrends

    If you are buying gold (which is a currency, not an investment) because you think the US dollar is going to collapse you're even dumber. If the US dollar collapses then the US government has collapsed. The only thing that will be valuable is having a bunker that nobody knows about that is loaded with recyclable water and pallets of food.

    It's hilarious to me to think about the prepper crowd who have gold think that if the USD becomes toilet paper, they'll be making trade and buying bullets and beans with some shiny metal that has no practical use in the apocalypse. If the USD becomes that worthless then the entirety of Western civilization will be plunged into war.

    Buying gold is for chumps and people with atrocious fashion taste.

    For the absolute love of god, turn off the conspiracy theory podcasts and put your money into the stock market in broad focus ETFs. Seriously, if you aren't retired and aren't buying into safe funds in stocks you are absolute ####ing moron. I know because I was there myself. Every single penny I spent on toys, nice meals, hobbies, trying to get the attention of girls, fast cars, fast bikes, nice clothes, etc could have all been better spent by dumping into into a vanguard fund.
     
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  7. Vampire

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    So you’ve resorted to ad hominem. Gotcha. The facts don’t care about your feelings. If I would have taken your advice, the fiat money in the safe wouldn’t have anywhere near the purchasing power of the gold I converted those dollars to instead. Who says I don’t own stocks, digital coins and have retirements already set up? I diversified. But that doesn’t change the fact that you’re positing nonsense regarding gold which has thousands of years of history as the people’s preferred means of exchange, versus your emotional ramblings and terrible investment advice.

    If fiat was so good, it wouldn’t have to be forced upon the people. Gold and silver have outperformed the dollar time and time again, and there’s a reason why under gold, prices remained relatively stable or fell during the 19th century (and before you try to bring up the notion enough gold fallacy…demand for gold outpaced the supply during that time of price stability). Mortgages were 10 years, with payments twice per year, and there was no income tax. Housing was a small percentage of one’s income as well.

    The way you’re triggered over gold is comical. Yet it’s indicative of the lack of knowledge you have about money in general.

    John Adams said something important, and it applies to you and others who promote the very things that have led to the dollars loss in purchasing power as exhibited in the aforementioned chart. It’s the reason they prohibited fiat money, as their experience with the fiat Continental led to their efforts to protect the people’s money, even furthering it with the coinage act of 1792.

    Breaking it down further, before the coinage was debased, a quarter contained 6.25 grams of silver. That equates to $6.5141 in purchasing power x 4 = 26.05. So for every dollar, that’s $26 in purchasing power with sound money.

    A salary of the following per year is below and what it’s purchasing power is:

    $1,500 x 26.05 =$39,075.00
    $2,500 x 26.05 =$65,125.00
    $5,000 x 26.05 =$130,250.00
    $10,000 x 26.05 =$260,500.00
    $15,000 x 26.05 =$390,750.00

    The median income:
    $60,070 x 26.06 =$1,565,424.20 of purchasing power.

    There’s nothing conspiracy related about money and what’s been done to it on purpose. There’s nothing conspiracy related about the federal reserve act, and the fact is that it wasn’t signed to protect or expand the people’s economic freedom.
     
  8. Iamoverit

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    Are you seriously denying that gold holds and/or increases it's value? Are you also seriously arguing that the dollar has not been steadily failing over time? You clearly don't understand what fiat currency is and how it works. You should crawl back under the nearest rock. It has nothing to do with theories. The data does not lie.
     
  9. Someguywithquestions

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    Currency are terrible investments and both of you are missing the point. Any money spent on gold could have been spent on safe blue chip stocks. Keep a small amount for savings in a high yield savings account and invest the rest into the stock market.

    Every single gold bug I've ever met was also knee deep in conspiracy nonsense and could spend their 70hr clock yammering on about ending the Federal Reserve and how the forefathers, and Jesus, and this that blah blah blah. It's for stupid people.

    Everything "increases in value" in a stable monetary system that is growing. It's called inflation. And a small steady amount is a healthy thing in macroeconomics. Just like a soda in 1947 cost a nickel and now costs a dollar. It's still the same soda. It has the same tangible value to people. Currency is devalued. If we went to gold, the gold would just become smaller in divisions until it becomes impractical. What are we going to subdivide gold down to an atomic level and trade 1,000 gold atoms for a piece of gum? It's idiotic and unfeasible. Backing the USD on a large scale is also meaningless when you have the title of world reserve currency. If there are always countries willing to buy US treasuries; "fiat" means absolutely #### all.

    I don't even know why I'm arguing with truck drivers about intro level high school civics. The same crowd spouts company and ATA lies breathlessly on why they should work 70 hours a week for months at a time for less than what Wendy's is paying.

    I ####ing can't stand how ####ing uneducated the working class in this country have become. Learning and becoming knowledgeable have been sacrificed to the altar of TV talking heads and retarded podcaster bro's. Prideful ignorance will be the death of this country. Bunch of ####ing ####### everywhere you go.
     
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  10. Iamoverit

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    You're free to leave at any time. Don't let the door hit you in the arse. You don't even understand what inflation is and how it happens.
     
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  11. Vampire

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    :biggrin_2559:. Steak has increased over 1,000 percent since the 1960’s. Wages haven’t even come close to that. Your ad hominem attacks are necessary because your arguments are so terrible.

    Our founding fathers were very smart. Instead of hearing yourself talk, you should have opened up a book and listened to them.

    This:

    $1,500 x 26.05 =$39,075.00
    $2,500 x 26.05 =$65,125.00
    $5,000 x 26.05 =$130,250.00
    $10,000 x 26.05 =$260,500.00
    $15,000 x 26.05 =$390,750.00

    The median income:
    $60,070 x 26.06 =$1,565,424.20 of purchasing power.

    is not healthy, nor stable. Nor can you dispute the facts, hence you getting in your feelings.

    You cannot tell anyone how going from 10 year mortgages, stable and falling prices (outside of govt induced economic calamities) one income required to run a household, a paid off debt, no income taxes, 2 industrial revolutions, and increasing purchasing power via sound money…..is somehow worse for people than monetary inflation and price inflation that outpaces wage growth, lack of savings, lack of capital necessary for a healthy economy, and a 37 trillion dollar debt.
     
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