been broke down all weekend, should i take my 34hr?

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  1. Gunner75

    Gunner75 Road Train Member

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    These are based on my interpretation of conversations with the shop manager and my road repair dept. The road dept stated they were waiting for the shop to give them esitmates, the sshop manager said they were waiting for my company to make a decision on what part to purchase.
     
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    Did I miss where he said he is now fixed(truck) and rolling?

    OP are you still sitting?
     
  4. Mudguppy

    Mudguppy Degenerate Immoralist

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    Thanks for the interpretation Sparky, but it was me actually reading EACH and EVERY response, especially the ones that continued to advise the OP of the his mis-steps logging after he advised multiple times he would look into/handle it with his logging dept. that prompted my post. Somewhere along the line the carcass of the horse became unidentifiable from all the overkill beating. I assure you, my intent was not to "ride in" (the horse was already beat to death, 'member?) and save anything other than more wasted bandwidth from those continuing on and on and on and on with the "Oh NOES! A LOG HAS BEEN VIOLATED!!!!" rhetoric, nothing else.

    But thanks for your assumptions anyways.... And we all know what they say when you ###ume something, don't we.....
    [que Looney Toon theme]
     
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  5. Gunner75

    Gunner75 Road Train Member

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    truck is finally fixed, part showed up around 4pm, im now sitting at the burger king across the street waiting for 5am to get here so i can go back to Baltimore to pick up a load o lumber due in a Home Depot DC in Jersey. Same day delivery, should make up for this wrecked ### week.

    And as I stated earlier, my dead horse carcass thats rotting from the repeated flogging that it received has been fixed, as I said it would be. It was edited to be for off duty rather than sleeper. Reason given was that it was mistakenly marked for sleeper when it shouldve been off duty. However Im willing to bet more than one of you will no doubt complain that my reason is not good enough, and I will get another round of lashes, eventually making me feel like christ when he received his lashes. Well too #### bad, its gonna have to be that way.
     
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    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    Good luck and thx for staying with it.

    Could've just blew the thread off for all the grief.

    But it's free, right? And for now you're on down the road.
     
  7. striker

    striker Road Train Member

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    Actually driver, it is a big deal. So let me explain it to you from someone who spends time in a sleeper and in a hotel, as needed, oh AND HAS BEEN CITED BY DOT FOR IT. If you spent the night in the sleeper, you log it on line 2, PERIOD. If you spent the time in a hotel room, you log it on line 1, PERIOD. Then, in the remarks section you write you were in a hotel, while your truck was in the shop.

    I used to do a run every two weeks, that had me gone for two night and three days. The first night I spent in the truck, it was logged on Line 2. The second night, the company paid for a hotel, oh, the truck was still loaded also. The first few times, I logged it on line 2, then I got stopped for a Level 1, 20 minutes after leaving the hotel, whose parking lot the DOT man had to drive by on his way to work, oh and the hotel was 1,000 ft from his office. I just happened to be the unlucky soul that he spotted first as he was leaving his office to start his day.

    While doing my log book, he noted I had logged the previous night on Line 2, he asked if I spent the night in the hotel or in the sleeper. I said in the hotel, he handed me my log back and said to change it show line 1 Off Duty. He then proceeded to explain to me that if my company was audited, and the receipt for the hotel showed up, and didn't match a log book anywhere, they could go after the company, and/or the driver who logged it correctly. He didn't give me an actual falsified log book citation, but rather noted on the inspection report (and signed off on the corrected log book pages) that he required me to make a change of duty status that was incorrectly reported.
     
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    striker Road Train Member

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    BTW driver, if your truck was in the shop for more than 34 hours, and you were in the hotel room...for...more....than...wait for it....34 HOURS.....Guess what, you took a 34 hr reset, doesn't matter what the regs say, you took a 34 hr reset. Thus, when you got behind the wheel.....wait for it....your total available hours would be 70. It's not rocket science, it's not magic, it's MATH.

    Here's another example for you. Two years ago, I got off work Friday at 4 pm, didn't report back to work until Sunday at 3 pm (47 hrs off duty), I had more than 34 hrs off, I was back to 70 available hours.

    Logged 30 minutes Line 4 PTI, drove for 4 hours Sunday night, took 10 in the sleeper, next morning I spent 30 minutes unloading, drove for 4 hours, spent 30 minutes unloading, drove for 2.5 hours, until my fan belt tensioner decided it no longer wanted to be an integral part of the engine, in the process it destroyed the fan belt, fan, fan drive, fan clutch and coolant tank. Took the wrecker 2 hours to come get me, in the meantime, my customer I was heading to came and met me, we unloaded his product by hand on to his pickup. The entire time I was waiting for the wrecker I was on line 4, then while I was riding in the wrecker to drop the trailer at the hotel lot, and the tractor at the service facility, I also logged line 4. The wrecker driver dropped me back at the hotel on the way to his yard. As soon as I hopped out of the cab of his truck (about 3 pm Monday)I went on line 1 Off Duty, and stayed there until 8 am the next morning (Tuesday) when my other customer came to unload his product onto his pickup. For the two hours he and his crew hand unloaded, I kicked back on a chair, but stay on Line 1. In fact I stay on Line 1 until 4 pm Weds. when they called that my truck was ready to be picked up.

    So, I had my 34+ hrs off, thus 70 available, then logged a combined 16 hrs between Line 3 and 4 over the next 24 hrs, then had another 49 hrs off duty. As soon as the dealers shop truck picked me up, I went on line 4, then on line 3 for the 15 minute drive back to the hotel with the tractor, then right back on to Line 1 while I took another 10.5 hrs in the hotel before leaving at 5 am the next morning. Guess what, when I went on line 4 as I climbed in that shop truck, I was back to 70 hrs available. Oh, and I'm on paper logs, and that is exactly how my recap in the front of the book showed it as well.
     
  9. Gunner75

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    Maybe you didn't catch the sarcasm laden post, I don't ####### care... we've already established this.... let it go for Christ sake. It's fixed, you can come down off your horse that has your god #### head so high that you can't tell when you've beaten the horse to death with everyone else.
     
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    Wrong, wrong and wrong. Say the OP came off a reset on Monday morning. He works Monday and Tuesday and breaks down on Wednesday. He is off duty Wednesday and Thursday and returns to work at....oh I don't know....10am on Friday. According to your math he will have his 70 hours back. According to your math that's how it is but according to the regs the math doesn't work as you can only take 1 restart a week and cannot start any earlier....wait for it....to the minute of your last restart.

    Also, you can reject restarts. At least I can with the logging system I use. But hey, it's math right?
     
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  11. MACK E-6

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    I'd say were done here.
     
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