Been driving wrong on the elog.. How to fix??

Make me weak reading this.

 

From overjoyful noise or fear and dread.

Sometimes I think If I was king, I would tear up all this logging regulating time BS. Then write one sentance.

"You have a 16 hour workday to use it as you wish 7 days a week." (None of this silly on duty driving dividing. You got 16 hours get going.) at the 16th hour and one minute past, you will drop everything and go to bed in the sleeper after you have had your dinner etc.

Note that the 16 hour law would allow you to have the same wake up call in the morning every morning.

You would not be required to use it all. And additional laws written to harden the driver's ability to say no to dispatch without fear in times of fatigue and other problems.

 

Yeah, but in your magical world of logic.... would you be required to have 8 off before your next 16, or is it 16 hours in a calendar day? In other words, would I be allowed to start my 16 hour day at 8 am today and 12:01 am the next day?

 

Ok you nailed me fair and square. Touch'e

If you wanted to work straight through until 4pm after 12:01 midnight why not? Go for it. You be awesome.

You should feel that you can get some rest whenever you feel like it however long you want to. But the big thing once you turn that key 16 hour workday, everything included in your day related to work.

 

I'm with you on the concept.... I just think you need 2 sentences.... lol

 

new hos regulation ...... you can drive 11 hours then you need to take a ten hour break after a ten hour break you get 11 hour driving ........... now if you think its complicate d now wait till they make these changes now with the split sleeper. ....... also the elog exemptions do not hold water if you are to tired to drive a load of furniture then you are too tired to haul cattle. ..... thinking about putting a chicKen coop and a couple of chickens on my catwalk to qualify for an exemption

 

You do realize that’s how we ended up with the 14/10 we have now, right? Through all the lawsuits with Public Citizen and all of that because they wanted drivers to have a consistant schedule.

 

I concede the schedule with one thought while i go down with boots on. Eventually you must rotate between day and night which raises hell with the body clock. (There is another set of words C and R but I cannot recall them)

I then support Long FLD's assertion that split sleeper would be outstanding. Just like it was before. If you don't believe it, try this experiment on paper. Two trucks leave LA Solo. Destination Avenel NJ. No speed limiters. Thus no more than 60 avg speed Trip distance 2650 miles roughly. Two fuel stops assuming full tanks in LA. Your first will be Holbrook and second lies in Memphis, Jackson, Cumberland Plateau and Knoxville as final. Drivers choice.*(You are pushing 1650 on 345 gallons)

One truck runs 5 driving. Stops to rest 5. Gets going again 5 more hours. Truck two runs out the full 11 then sit to sleep. (Assuming 10 hours driving, one hour incidentals on duty including BS mandatory rest break at 30 minutes. (I am not against this, it's literally a way of destroying one's groove of putting away miles with the left door SHUT.)

Both trucks started with full 70 coming off reset. Which one do you suppose will get to Avenel First?

Bonus Question. Will it beat a Married Team truck into Avenel?

 

Why would split sleeper make it more complicated? We’d be going back almost to the way it was before.

 

The rules have always been there to allow drivers to say no when fatigued, but it's not "manly" to do so, and drivers have just used the excuse of intimidation to justify their excessive driving hours.

And on the very first day of this new rule I can hear it already "I'm only 15 minutes from home and I'm supposed to stop and sleep, who wrote these stupid rules?" A line has to be drawn somewhere.

And if we are ALLOWED to work 16 hours then most companies will DEMAND every driver they have put in the full 16. Not everyone in this job wants to be a slave and work like that. 8 hours off usually resulted in 4-6 hours sleep at best "back in the day" if you were running perfectly legal, that's why the change to 10 off duty was made. The willingness of drivers to work more and more for less and less is how we got in this mess in the first place. If minimum wage rules applied all across the industry, and overtime, rather than per miles pay as it usually is for OTR, this would start to change. For all the rules governing us they refuse to change the federal labor laws classifying us the same as unskilled migrant farm workers.

There are plenty of drivers running for good companies, not pushing the limits of the HOS clock, and making good money. Work for a POS company then expect to be treated like a POS.

 

Personally, drivers are their own worst enemies. My view is HOS is my friend, it protects me from my company. If hours of service allows it then companies will require it. That's where unions came from, companies running their workers into the ground, spitting them out and replacing them with another. That was a nightmare. I don't want that.

I think HOS is overly restrictive. I can only work 8:45/day on average without 34's. I typically work 10-12 hours a day. That's because I trim them logs. I don't think I'm particularly industrious so I'm inclined to think every driver paid cpm does. There specific guidance that you're suppose to be on the clock in the dock waiting to be unloaded. Who seriously does that? If it was everyone they would change that guidance real fast. No, no, we don't want empty stores.

That's what I mean by drivers are their own worse enemies. This industry only works due to disregard for regulations. That's how you get screwed up regulations that you really don't want people to comply with. A state trooper inspects my logs and complements me on my compliance. I struggle not to laugh. Yeah, I delivered to Walmart, took me 5 minutes to get in a dock and another 5 to leave. Them guys at the gate move real fast and so does the receiving office, that's all it took.