You folks that have time,you should write done your work history and all the other things companies ask for.I have an application which makes it so much easier when filling out online applications.
Before you even apply...
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by BrenYoda883, Sep 26, 2013.
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If an applicant is unable to list any personal references, however, he or she has a good work history, a clean MVR, an no criminal history, would this bar the applicant from getting a job as a truck driver, either OTR ot local?
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I don't know who here has ever had to do a background check to put a driver in the seat of a truck so I assume no one has.
First the OP has good advice but I don't think it is unreasonable to call the local cop shop and ask them for a criminal background check, I've done this a couple times and used it as a per-employment check for myself. Most of the time they will oblige you unless you are wanted for something.
Second the 10 year thing isn't about the company nor the insurance company which dictates a lot of things for carriers - it is the FMCSA regulations and it is a PIA. Thank 9/11 and such for the enforcement of it, because this is where it comes from now. Now the trick to this is to document as much as possible within that ten years and like it has been said a few times - it doesn't have to be perfect. If the company does do a background check on you and you are counting a driving job under FMCSA (federal) regulations like interstate trucking as past experience, then they will look to confirm that if it is recent but out of all the companies I worked for or with, they usually look at the first three and that's it. Your criminal background check won't show those, and neither will any thing else as far as I can see, but calling the company will.
Third thing is the SS administration does not have your employment records, they only have what you either paid into the system by your self-employment taxes or what the company submits.
I decided a month ago to find some part time work and it has been a pain. I filled a lot of pre-hire stuff out, got tired of putting in those on line apps and started to just go to the company and ask for an app which got me calls. So I just went through the hiring process with four companies and think they need to accept an application that is standardized by the FMCSA because it got tiring filling out four 15 page apps and having two companies accept me for part time work only to fill out 37 more pages for each company from I-9s to FMLA acknowledgement. I did the 10 years back, I've got a lot of little employment gaps so I put them in chronological order of the gaps with an explanation for each one. -
Thank you everyone for the intelligent and helpful responses. I am making a dummy applications with all of my information organized so I am able to fill out apps quickly and accurately. As a standard approximately how many personal references would be optimal. I know when I bought a car they wanted 10 which I thought and still think is totally ridiculous. Would I be alright with 5 well trusted close personal and professional references or so I need to fill 5 more spots with people I semi know? .
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How many years back is the motor vehicle report? I've had a Cali, Alaska, Washington, and current Nevada license depending on where I lived or was stationed in the past 10 years. I've done a check on myself with Nv and it's clean. When I had a Az license I got a speeding ticket in 08 and it shows on my background check for some reason still, but zero tickets from Wa show up.
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The applications I have seen ask if you ever bad a license issued in another state and has placed to list them..
Obviously if you have worked at the same place for 20 years then there is no need to get your employment history.. but, there are others who have held many jobs over the last 10.. and sometimes remembering exactly what month you started that crap job you held 8 years ago is vague.. so, that is where it is a good idea...
I think too, for those just entering the trucking industry may not realize that that it is important.. that people have made it to and through orientation and think they are on their way only to get sent home.. -
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All what you say is true....But their lawyers and the DOT have made it harder to qualify folks nowadays...after 9/11 you must have zero gaps in your work history I think to get a TWIC card or a Haz Mat endorsement and rightly so IMO...but that is the way it is...anytime the folks in government try to fix something all they do is put folks in charge of fixing it that have no idea what the problem is to start with , much less how to go about fixing it.....just follow me..........[/QUOTE]
Gaps are easy to fill in, even the biggest dimwit could find a reasonable excuse for staring at the walls for years on end. I was laid off from the Auto industry during the economic downturn in 2007. I spent three years unemployed on unemployment before I found transportation. All I had to do was sign a statement of long term unemployment and prove I collected benefits... and just like that I was eligible for HazMat certification. Even if I hadn't collected UI, I would have still qualified with a signed statement. So theoretically, I could have been homeless, wandering the streets and ruining my insides on gut-rot, and no one would have been the wiser.
When you cut through the noise, trucking is still one of the least appealing and most difficult careers to transition in to. There are ways around just about anything to create new drivers, so the illusion that heavier scrutiny upon one's "employment history" will somehow create a safer environment or better drivers is just that...it's like seeing a lush river in hundred degree heat atop the asphalt. You believe so strongly that it's there, but you're still somehow thirsty... -
If you look at the whole big picture.. you will get what I am saying..
CDL schools need students, that is how they make money.. you pay them to get your CLD license.. they don't need you to get hired to make their money.. they just need you to be eligible to get a CDL and pay for it somehow... The requirements to be eligible to obtain a CDL are lower than they are to get hired by mostcompanies... You can have multiple suspensions on your record and get a CDL as long as your license is not currently suspended... But, you willo find it very hard and next to impossible to get hired..
Next, there is a big misconception that the companies need you or me to drive for them... They don't.. theyneed driver's.. they don't care if it is me, you, or the other guy.. This more true of the big mega carriers..
The simple and plain truth is that they just cast a large net and fill the weekly orientation classes that start every week... They know not everyone in the orientation and class will make it through.. they also know that of those that do most will not make it even 6 months...
I don't know the actual numbers.. but my guess would be may 2% make it 6 months... There are numerous stories pn here and other sites about driver's being pulled off the truck and sent home because something.. maybe a job couldn't be verified, this or that..
If you want the job, and you want to make it through all the hoops.. then take the time to get all your ducks in a row and increase your chance to have the chance or opportunity to succeed..
Cause you are sadly misinformed or just delusional off you think the company will be sad and horribly upset if you or I get sent home.. why would they, there are hundreds trying to get into the next class and hundreds more the next.. and they don't have the trucks nor the freight to have everyone who goes through orientation last..
Keep in mind.. that, as newbies.. this is an industry that while you are on your way to orientation.. they are recruiting someone to replace.. to fill your seat if you don't make it.. and, look at the turn over and odds.. to me, why leave it to chance or luck..mje Thanks this.
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