Being an O/O under a Carrier's Authority

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Misesian, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. CJndaTruck

    CJndaTruck Road Train Member

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    He has been there about a month. Give him time to adjust and get into a groove.
     
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  3. nofreetime

    nofreetime Road Train Member

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    Some good comments made here by the way. I just became an o/o leased to a carrier, and I don't mind soaking up some knowledge thanks fellas. All this talk about averages but nobodies mentioned what the average miles, or average length of haul. Landstar, Mercer, do these carriers have enough avail freight with a decent average length of haul, that I could go out realistically run 145,000-150, 000 miles/yr at the average all mile # listed here $1.48??? Is it possible to gross 200k with these people in your first year?? 210k? 220k? 230k? Keep in mind I work 340-350 days/yr but its by choice.
     
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  4. spyder7723

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    150k miles a year? That isn't gonna happen at any company. At least not anywhere that follows hos laws. 125k is a much more realistic number to be aiming for.
     
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  5. whoopNride

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    You gonna need some track pants and flip flops to run those kind of miles driver
     
  6. nofreetime

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    Lol I roll around 145k actually in 2014 I did 147,600 that's in a prime truck mind you at 58mph I was a company driver back then, you bet its possible. I wasn't joking when I said I work 340-350 days per/yr. Spyder can you or someone else answer my question is it possible to gross 200K, 210k, 220k, 230k with landstar or Mercer in your first year??? I see there's some mercer people in here so that's why I'm asking.
     
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  7. spyder7723

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    Im at mercer and i say yes it is possible. But I'm pulling a flat and I'm lazy so i haven't grossed that high. That whole working less than half the year keeps my gross down. But my net is higher than all but the most lucrative jobs out there.

    As for high mileage, you can't compare what a company driver at a mega carrier with drop and hook locations all over the country runs with what a one truck and trailer guy runs. I also suggest that no matter where a guy goes, he stops thinking gross. High gross dies not mean high net. One guy can gross 200k and run 150k miles to do it, spending 75k on fuel. Another guy can gross 150k on 30k miles spending 5k on fuel. Add in the difference in maintenance costs and who made more money? Extreme example but the point is valid. The only number that matters is net.
     
  8. TaylorMade407

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    Yup get out of the MILES!!! Mentality. Once you're making the payment on the truck you'll start thinking revenue and rate per mile. Of course the big (what, where, when and time) are all factors but that comes with dispatching yourself.
     
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  9. nofreetime

    nofreetime Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the responses I appreciate them. When were talking about average rates per mile were talking about the small picture. I'd like to move this conversation more in the direction of talking about the big picture, yearly numbers. I understand the very basic business economics stuff you guys are mentioning, but its also causing gridlock to communication happening. That said I also understand why some of you are saying this stuff, because a lot of drivers don't get some basic economics and they need to hear it, so it causes you to have the prefabricated responses you're having now. Again I'm not trying to evoke a company driver mentality vs o/o mentality conversation here. Just trying to get an idea of what some of these numbers mentioned here mean in the big picture meaning a year to someone that works full time.
     
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  10. spyder7723

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    Big picture, full year working full time, using what i do now and extending it out to a full year. 90 to 110k miles. 250 to 275k gross. 125k to 150k taxable income.
     
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  11. TaylorMade407

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    Since we're hijacking the OP thread. Start your own with the same questions and we'll be more than happy to chime in. A lot of us run different operations so you can get a vast variety of knowledge
     
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