Being an O/O under a Carrier's Authority

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Misesian, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. Misesian

    Misesian Road Train Member

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    I'm not "overjoyed" with current rates. Rates are down and everyone knows it. The average national reefer rate is around 1.80-1.85 a mile; the carrier I pull for averages about 1.85 on loaded miles. They aren't hauling cheap but at the going average rate. I present a real world picture of what this is like. I won't put a bunch of false hope out there telling guys I only haul 3 buck a mile freight; it doesn't exist. You either haul for going rates or you sit and go out of business as people laugh at you on the phone when you demand rates no one is going to pay.

    My quality of life is just fine. I pay myself and pay the bills and still put 3-5k in the bank, average is 3800 a month right now. I hope I am part of this standard you speak of; if my ability to run a profitable business at going rates puts others out of business that can't make it means better times when rates trend up. I am doing quite well at this. I'm not mad, stressed out, worrying about that next repair, I run smart and make it work. Instead of stopping at page 4 maybe you should read more of what I say. A good business person seeks out what others are doing that makes them successful and applies it to their operation.
     
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  3. Oscar the KW

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    It does, its just going to be on short hauls, or the occasional longer one that needs to go. And I'm sure that there are some loads with decent miles on them that pay that regularly, but those are few and far between, and are under contract.
     
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  4. spyder7723

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    Also there is plenty of 2.50 a mile freight out here. On decent miles.
     
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  5. rollin coal

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    The thing about staying so busy at lower rates is that you never really notice when they have trended up and continue working at them. Your rates in the Southeast should have been double what you were doing. Not making #### up just telling it like it is. Trucks were really tight especially in the Atlanta area during June. Next year, it will be the same story. Now it is true that a LOT of freight was still getting booked for lower rates during that time. You had to play it patient. And it's over for now. Try better next year. Put yourself in better markets and quit wasting so much time in Texas with a dry box.
     
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  6. Misesian

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    These guys have some short runs 300 miles or less and they pay pretty good; almost double what I could make in a day on regular freight. I ran one two days ago and it paid 275.00 to the truck on 75 miles, preloaded, drop and hook both ways. And at the drop I hooked to my next one to MS.
     
  7. spyder7723

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    I don't care if its only crossing the street. 275 isn't enough to start the truck for.

    Those 0 to 100 mile runs are my bread and butter and they consistently pay 550(after carriers cut, that's the to the truck rate) or better.
     
  8. stayinback

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    Spyder, I agree with you on this 1.

    Shorties/Cartage work is Never Billed- Nor thought out as "Mileage" per say

    Full truckload Stuff Here in Chicago staying within metro area codes Begs to Run a minimum of $500 per Load...

    If it needs Cross-docking/Temp Storage or Next day service- Of Course the Rate goes up from there..

    Now, Out in the Country or wherever you guys start from- Never Look at Rates as mileage from 0 to 150 Miles

    So Folks... If a Cherry Broker thinks that $350 to your truck on a 73 mile Load is your Savior...Tell The broker, Sure If you can guarantee in Writing 2 per day everyday..For the Next Month. Because your $350 for just 1 move is not gonna happen!
     
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  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    That's really how it is pretty much anywhere. Anyone trying to sell "$3 a mile" on 75 miles can move along and find someone willing to do it. I'm not interested. A waste of time is what that is. There are times when "rate per mile" makes sense and times when it doesn't.
     
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  10. Misesian

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    Nice to start the day off when you check in and the guy says what the F are you doing here. Lovely people at these receiving docks.
     
  11. spyder7723

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    And that sir, is the number 1 reason to pull a flatbed. The only shippers and recievers with that kind of attitude in the flat bed world are union steel mills. And it's extremely easy to avoid them and get different loads.
     
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