Being an O/O under a Carrier's Authority

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Misesian, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Absolutely.
     
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  3. TaylorMade407

    TaylorMade407 Road Train Member

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    My buddy just did a search for me and he said it's plenty of loads above 2.50 per mile gross out of AR. (Most in the 2.70 range) My advice for the OP is to jump ship to a carrier that lets him chose his own loads if he's up to the challenge.
     
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  4. paintballer

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    What load load Board? I am not seeing but 2/3 loads on IT at the 2.50 level.

    Is he using something like LS internal board for their BOC's?
     
  5. CJndaTruck

    CJndaTruck Road Train Member

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    I'm not seeing van loads at those rates either. 2-2.5 is what I see and that's inline with his $1.56 TTT in my opinion. I'm sure there may be better.
     
  6. TaylorMade407

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    Yup that's van rates for the blue star. Personally if I had to pull a van I'd go there. They don't have back hauls. Every thing you take is a head haul. Some good some bad but way more consistent considering if 2.17 is the best his carrier has to offer from their customer vs Landstar agents pulling 2.50+
     
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  7. whoopNride

    whoopNride Road Train Member

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    I have found over the years that most small carriers operate this way. They have what they consider good head hauls out of the local area, and will haul dirt cheap back hauls to get back. Lots of furniture haulers in my area, they will haul freight 700 miles for $500 just to get back for another load of furniture that doesn't pay great in my opinion.
     
  8. Misesian

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    In my time in dispatch at 3 different places, JB Hunt, CalArk, and Maverick the average total rate per mile which excludes fuel and in cludes all miles was always around 2.00 per mile. JB and CalArk this applied to OTR Van freight and with Maverick this was reefer. At Knight I was shown the stats for the reefer division and it was at 2.05 all miles excluding fuel.

    Tyson for instance is pretty standard that you will get 1.76 a mile plus fuel, plus any stops. Additional stops usually pay 75.00 a piece with them. If they need trucks they will even pay your deadhead at the loaded mile rate. Tyson had some lanes that would pay up to 2.25 a mile plus fuel. I hear lots of guys throwing around these big numbers but I have honestly never seen that.

    I spoke with Landstar and Mercer when I was looking into options and Mercertold me as an average I could expect 1.48 per loaded mile. Landstar told me as an average I could expect 1.50-1.75 per loaded mile. This is to the truck on loaded miles all in pulling vans. I know a guy that works at Landstar pulling Vans and until he got a dedicated gig with an agent he was getting 1.45 average on all miles to the truck.
     
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  9. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    All this is true. But ask yourself. Are you happy being average? Or are you the guy that's willing to put in the effort and work to be a top tier operator that far surpasses the fleet average?

    Using mercer and landstar as an example: while the fleet average may only be 1.48 (i would dispute that number but it's really not the point) that number includes all the bums that can't get out of bed before noon. The number i want to see is what the top ten percent are doing. That's the peer group i would be doing what it takes to be in.

    Basically, don't concern yourself with a companies average. Look at their top tier operators. Is your current company's top tier operators on part with mercers and landstars? From the posts you've made of how they operate. One step from forced dispatch, I'd say absolutely not.
     
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  10. nofreetime

    nofreetime Road Train Member

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    Misesian Q1 is finished do your #'s for the quarter?
     
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