Better than Average

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TripleSix, May 20, 2021.

  1. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

    Apr 10, 2009
    Copied in Hell
    What does the average driver look like in your area of the industry? Fat and smelly wearing sweatpants? What does your average day look like? @kylefitzy and @wore out , what does your average day look like?

    We’ve all seen this video. What does the average driver look like in this video? Braindead? Steeringwheelholders going down the highway looking 50 feet ahead of their windshield? But R&L stops a pair of wiggle wagons on slick roads and was even able to keep them straight. This R&L driver, is he their best driver or do you think he’s average?

    What do R&L drivers look like in average? For an LTL company, is R&L average, below average or better than average? Why do you think that LTL drivers on average, make 2X the industry average? Lots of questions, right?

    After the big gas hack, my instincts tell me that automated trucks are not being looked at as a replacement for drivers, but as the new Braindead meat in the seat. In other words, your section of the industry, is it chocked full of fat smelly people who can’t drive without a truck chocked full with fat smelly people who hate themselves? Then you are in danger. They are going to put put you guys out within the next 5 years. When you start seeing the automated truck sitting next you at shippers, you have 12 month left on the job. Before that time, you want to look like your average LTL driver.

    They are going to purge the truck industry, raise the standard, and once again, classify trucking as Skilled Labor. If you want to stick around, you’d better look the part and drive with skill.

    My instincts tell me too that guys like @wore out are going to make serious bank, because his rig is hack proof. Not talking anything illegal, but there will definitely be a niche market for the mechanical rigs.
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  3. tallguy66

    tallguy66 Light Load Member

    Oct 18, 2018
    I wonder if R&L / Walmart from that video ever spoke on what they did differently. Probably just a matter of driving through there in those conditions often... seen the same thing in PA this winter.
    alds and TripleSix Thank this.
  4. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

    Jun 26, 2020
    South Texas
    You run open deck like me (kind of), so you already know the types of guys in our sector, so I don't have much to add. But I will say I was pretty surprised. Almost every flatbedder I've met so far is so...mediocre. I've taught several how to throw straps the way I do. They think it's some kind of black magic, and it's just something I learned on YouTube. I have yet to meet someone that has ever even heard of a dump valve. I think my view of the flatbedding world got skewed by this site. I had a preconceived notion that flatbedders had tip top load securement, tight and smooth tarps, and a lot of pride. Turns out that only describes the top couple percent at best. The rest are bare minimum securement, no chokers, and tarps flapping in the wind held down by ten straps and two bungee cords.
  5. 86scotty

    86scotty Road Train Member

    Aug 27, 2017
    ^^^ No doubt. Hanging around on this site has made me start paying attention to flatbedders more. Some of the stuff I notice now is scary.
  6. mustang190

    mustang190 Road Train Member

    Jan 18, 2011
    Florida Panhandle
    I’m always amazed at how much this industry has changed every time I see a video like that pileup.
    Not saying that there were no wrecks but, when drivers had and used radios and there was some professionalism wrecks that severe were few.
  7. ibcalm19

    ibcalm19 Road Train Member

    Nov 30, 2015
    True indeed. I seen guys come in to load coils & didn't even know what a coil rack was. I'm like who would send you out like that. I instructed him you definitely don't play around with not knowing how to load coil. It's all in being trained properly.
    I pass this on some of us think we are super man/woman (a lie) on the road because we drive a big truck, fast car lifted 4x4 etc. We are the most fragile thing on the road. Truck & cars can get recycled or repaired. Our bodies don't operate that way. I try to take care of myself in & out of the truck my personal wellbeing. I believe by doing that I will make it better for me & you. All the best on your journey through this life.
  8. TokyoJoe

    TokyoJoe Road Train Member

    Feb 10, 2015
    I think that some of us are "better than average" 90+% of the time. Just paying attention to what is actually going on ahead of you and not messing with your phone at all currently makes you better than average.

    Whenever you see a driver get over a 1/2 mile before he gets to some hazard on the side or seeing multiple trucks entering the highway, he's at least better than average in that moment because you know what usually happens. They wait till the last second, you've already gotten over behind them and started to pass, now they want you to let them in.

    Of course even those that are better than average occasionally have a slice of pizza in their hand while driving or get a phone call from dispatch at the wrong time and answer it anyway so not many are always 24/7 better than average, IMO.

    I know I've had a couple close calls where I was talking to my wife who is in the truck with me and didn't realize that I was coming in kinda hot on a curve in the snow and ice and had to clench the buttcheeks as I carefully took the curve forcing myself not to apply the brakes even thought I might have needed to.
  9. rcelmo

    rcelmo Medium Load Member

    Mar 23, 2015
    Majority of the companies out here want to hire the "brain dead", flip flop
    wearing deuce bag driver. They don't want drivers that might ask embarrassing
    questions of the computer educated company "expert".
  10. wore out

    wore out Numbered Classic

    Jun 5, 2013
    Some in my area think it’s a fashion show. You gotta have the whole outfit to do it. Some are just here because they are in hireable in other places.

    My jeans are never pulled over my boot tops, nor are they tucked in neat. A button down shirt or a pull over depending on the day. Clean clothes is a must. Never without a belt or a dirty ball cap that’s usually crooked. Be surprised how a ball cap can change a fightin heifers mind when you whoop her in the face with it cause she has kicked your paddle or stick out of your hand.

    It’s a hard thing to judge a man by his appearance, lot of times that will fool you. There have been times after 3 days straight of 1000 miles a day with a load and unload per day and a dirty trailer I wasn’t in the best of shape. Had a job to do and I done it, fashion police be ######

    very average look....don’t sell us short. You may get your feelings hurt

    Edit The way the sun hits the bunk it can look’s not
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  11. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

    May 28, 2010
    Bullcrap ... Anytime there was fog on 99 back in the 70s, the next day would look like Kuwait Highway after a US airstrike, with all the trucks pushed off to the side.

    Let's not kid ourselves ... There's always been jackwads out here. The difference is today they wind up on YouTube and shared over and over ... Back in day it didn't go any further than the driver's counter at the next truck stop.
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