Big company training and big scams associated with them !!!

prime is owned by an england brother,hence there equipment is mostly equal as in speed.swift,crst,jb,hunt used to be the butt of slow an some very funny quips but c.r. england an prime basicly run 62mph with there speed-o-meter set 2 to 3 mph faster than your running.home time is almost non existing with either company for the first 4 weeks an possibly the next 4 too.an if u have court or family problems well dont expect them to be caring enough to get u home cuz it aint happing. an like every other company out there,lease purchase is what they are all pushing.most will be filing a chapter 13 an what will save those companys who do is the amount of lease purchases they have signed on.you as the "owner operator" will be paying their bills for them.C.R englang is fazing out there company drivers an pushing lease on you.an dont let anyone say other wise.*****GOOD LUCK NEWBEES

 

It look like the truck they used in the movie called death race!! May be!! Any way good stuff. Thanks cj. Any thang on wil trans? If I might dare to ask!!!!!:smt064Just poken around a little for some answers!!

 

I looked into training companies at first to and was accepted by a few.
After reading post here i decided to go to private school in which i completed.
After completing private school reapplied to same companies and all said no.
So that tells alittle about these training companies.

 

As far as I know, there is no blood relationship between Rob Low and the owners of CRE. Completely different families.

My management tells me they're doing the slow-down as a cost-saving deal - which makes sense. Slow down, burn less fuel, and the company fuel bill goes down. It's a reasonable strategy during a recession - cut your costs more than the next guy, and outlast him. As far as the 2 or 3 mph off thing... that's tire wear. I know it doesn't sound right, but when I got new drives put on last summer, my speedometer has been spot-on ever since.

Well, its called training... and the following isn't meant to hype Prime, but to set the record straight as it relates to my experience.

My experience in military tech training was that interruptions aren't good for the trainees experience. Usually easiest for all concerned to do it at logical pauses in the process. For a CDL student that would be after the CDL driving test, and at the end of the training period. Other than that, it's usually a mutually agreed thing between the student and trainer. When I went through it at Prime, my trainer was stopping at home all the time - which happened to be about 10 miles from where I lived. Prime's training is extensive, so you'll probably be out 12 to 16 weeks during training - and the recruiters were up front with me about that. Spent longer away from home between basic training and the end of tech training in the military... nine months before my first leave. I'd have rather spent more time out during my period with a trainer so I could get to a higher pay scale sooner, than to have spent as much time at home - not that I want to be away from home. Just needed the cash.

Now that's just not true - at least in my experience at Prime. I know a couple of folks who had deaths in the immediate family who were routed home within a few hours of the news. I let my FM know with a week or two notice about dentists appointments, and arrive in time to make them. Just got some dental work done last Friday as a matter of fact. Gave my FM 5 days notice for the memorial service of a close friend in September, and arrived early enough on the day to make the service. In fact, I've been taking some time off every 5 to 8-weeks on a fairly regular basis - I've never been refused time at home, and only was late once by a day. Last year we were given the option of being routed home for either Thanksgiving or Christmas. I ended up with a load home for both holidays. I've been placed on loads a number of times that finaled within 35 miles of my house, and each time it's happened my FM has sent me a QC asking if I want a couple of days at home - without me asking for it.

That being said, I did get in a conversation with a CRE driver at Bosselman's in Big Springs NE earlier this fall. He'd been trying to get home for 4 months, and everytime he had a load that would get him there his dispatcher switched him off of it and on to something that got him further away. Now that's complete Bravo Sierra. If I'd ever had been treated that way by Prime, I'd be history.

Never had it "pushed" on me. Been company for two years, no pressure to move to the lease side. Makes sense from the companies' viewpoint though... lowers their costs since they don't have to support the overhead associated with employing a company driver... that's not saying its a good deal for most folks.

Can't say about CRE's policies myself because I've never had the misfortune to work for them... but then again, I haven't met more than a couple of CRE drivers who say anything good about them in a couple of years. Personally, I'm really glad I never got involved with CRE, because in my opinion they are worse than total **** as a trucking company. As I said in an earlier post, its about making an intellegent decision as to which company to go to train.

It's about trade-offs and comprimises - and making a deal with the devil. So if you believe what I'm saying - it is the truth, then there is a definite difference between the two companies. That is the kind of thing you need to look for - and why you need to ask the same set of questions to the recruiters and compare the answers. Ask the same question in different ways... in a random sequence - like don't bunch up all the questions about time at home together. Then go to a local truck stop, find some drivers that work for the companies you're interested in, and ask them about it.

 

i left the post on C.R. England for a reason. i first planted my butt in a truck in '74. drove for a few companys then went to owner operators.i currently work for C.R. an if you dont think they push lease purchase well attend there school training do your 2 phazes an tell them you want to be a company driver unless u live within a certain radius of one there termnials they will dog u at every corner.i tried to be a company driver an was constantly asked to lease purchase.i was placed with a driver who lives in oregon,he hadnt been home in 3 months,i sat in oregon 4 days while he took home time.his average miles was about 3800 to 4400 a week running team.hell i did that my self back in the latter part of the '90s.running solo from tn to ca.of course i ran a few extra log books.now a days u lose ur lic. to quick for piddle ####.as far as slowing down an saving fuel.turning down the power an speed saves fuel but so does common sense if ur truck has everything turned up.ive run both ways in that aspect the differance isnt more than 2/10s of a gal if u know what ur doing.c.r.'s trucks come with a 13 speed but the upper shift is removed so u run 9 speed.go from 7th to 8th an unless ur on flat ground or empty u aint moving very fast.the reason they done this is because the students were tearing up the trans in traning.here's a question 4 u;would u(a driver with lets say 15 yrs ex)get on a trainers truck with only 6 months ex.an let them teach u how to driver in adverse weather.not me ive seen these rookies hotrod thru parking lots grabbin gears.folks i aint no rookie an i can always learn something new being on the road or from other drivers.but from a trainer with only 6 mo to a year ex.what am i going to learn how to hold my baggy pants up with one hand when i walk thru a parking lot cuz thay hang down to the crack of my #####.exp used to pay an have a place in trucking but with the econmy the way it is a lot of younger people are turning to trucking.

 

you know, that is a big part the problem. This instant truck driver mentality. It starts when newbies think they all they need to be a trucker is a couple weeks at a school and their cdl. Now, these schools aren't going to bust the illusion, they add to it with the "heck, your not only a truck driver, but you can be a trainer in just 6 months"

Then you have these over confident inexperienced drivers who only know enough to get from point A to point B, but don't know enough to know that there is more that they don't know yet. But, what the heck, they are a trainer so they must know right.... grrrr
I am serious about wanting to be a professional truck driver. I want to be well trained. But I have to go through these darn companies where they are going to let a rookie train me.
I wish I could learn the old fashion way. Ride along and work along with an O/O. That way I know I will learn. I will learn more about the truck, more about driving, more about the industry. I will learn what I need to be a professional truck driver instead of being someone behind the wheel learning through trial and error.