You can get an extra lower gear if you know how. The low side is like this: low--1--2--3--4--shift range 5 low--5 hi---ect.....
The way to get an extra gear on the low side is to shift in the low side up to third, example: 1--2--3--shift range to high, move shifter from 3 to the low position DIRECT (all the way toward you and back), this gear is the same ratio as 4 in the low side. You use this gear just like 4, except when you reach top rpm, split it to the high side, the when needed shift to 5 low--5 hi, ect. This will give you one extra gear in the lower end without any harm at all to the transmission.
Big hole against the dash - flipped gears13 speed
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by rollin coal, Jun 4, 2010.
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I have a 13spd with 3:36 rears and full size 24.5's and it runs about 1350 at 65mph in high gear. Not sure what the difference would be with 22.5's but for me it's perfect. Anything below 65mph and I just use 12th.
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What you are doing is turning 8th and 9th around to make a double over 13. With 3.55's and 22.5 tires you will pick up speed at lower RPM's. With today low RPM engines 3.55's or 3.70's and a double over 13 would out pull 3.36's all day long. Changing from 22.5 tires to 24.5 tires would cost big bucks, and besides 22.5 tires are the same hight as 24.5 low pros. At the speed your are wanting to run I would say a double over 13 would work but you may be in 12th gear more so than 13th.
Also a poster said using the LOW gear in the high range with a 13 speed...that will work, but it will burn up a tranny as the oil pump is not working while in that gear...READ THE WARNINGS. Never move the shift lever to the LO speed gear position while operating in HI range. I believe only with 18 speeds that gear can be used like that.
Also you can make a 13 speed in to a 18 speed, a slip bearing has to be put in and the gear shifter knob changed.
To the postersaid that his buddy claims his doubleover 18 is faster than a doubleover 13...he is nuts. An 18 speed is a 13 with 5 deep reduction low gears, much like a 10 speed vs a 15 speed, same tranny only the 15 has 5 low hole gears.supdty93 Thanks this. -
i did that to a 13 once big mistake to high of gearing not enough motor 3406B putting about 580 to the ground dont do it reratio rears leave trans the way it is.
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Superhauler, yeah I've decided against flipping them. Cool factor just don't justify messing it up when it pulls good as is now. I'll just have to be content with 1700rpms at 75mph. No big deal really. The fuel mileage only drops down 2 tenths to 4 tenths (depending on my weight) from 70mph anyways.
I may not have mentioned motor is an MBN which operates best at higher rpms (1400+) than the newer accerts. There's no way I'd ever go up to 3:55's or even 3:58's it's perfect with the 3:70's.
07 379-Pete, I didnt realise you could upgrade a 13 to an 18. Would it involve dropping the transmission down to change the parts? Any idea on roughly what the slip bearing and new shift knob would cost? -
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Why don't you like tall 24.5's?
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The only people who ought to dislike tall 24.5s is the guys that get paid by weight. I on the other hand work in the oil patch and need the extra ground clearence, be it only 2 inches or so.
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I get paid by weight and wouldn't want anything else on my truck.
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