Big Loads - Post Photos Number 2

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  1. Oxbow

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    I'm in the dark, scra?
     
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  3. johndeere4020

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  5. johndeere4020

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    It is a good idea, but like all other changes it will negatively affect some.
     
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    It will make those big multi component trailers in far less demand.
     
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    Not necessarily.
    Study the configurations, anything 9axles and bigger, all the backends are listed with at least one 13'7" minimum spacing.
    So it's 2-2, 3-1, 3-2, etc.
    Just because the drawing shows the axles close together, doesn't mean the listed axles spacing minimums are.
    The SCRA plan does take into account Federal Bridge Spacing/Span Weight Limits.
     
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  8. johndeere4020

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    Well from the standpoint that an 8 axle quad trailer would be able to carry 160,000 gross it would certainly eliminate the need for a west coast type trailer currently required to go to California and a few other states with many loads. The federal bridge formula says I’m allowed 34,000 on a tandem less than 8’ and 50,500 on a quad with between 13 and 14’ of spread and yet I can permit 50,000 on a tandem and 80,000 on a quad.
     
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  9. Heavy Hammer

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    50,500 on a tandem is in your case OH, some others allow that high as well.
    Federal Bridge Formula for OS/OW loads is 46,000lbs on tandem with minimum 13'7" of spread. A lot of states require 14', which is why 14' became the defacto "standard".
    I don't know FBF for quads, they aren't and won't be allowed in Western Canada so I don't even look into it.
     
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  10. johndeere4020

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    No 50,500 is on a quad according to the federal bridge formula, 34,000 on a tandem. I’ve never seen a federal standard for permits as far as I know it doesn’t exist it’s up to the states. I do know a majority of states now recognize 80,000 on quads with a few holdouts. I don’t know anything about Canada.
     
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    There is no federal standards that I know of. That is the whole point of what the sc&ra is trying to do. Each state is free to choose now. For example in MO a regular 1-3-3 7 axle can only get 132,000. But in VA that same setup can get 144,000. Most states allow 4’6” axle spacing there are a few that all 4’ and some require 5’. It’s a mish mash all over the board. Even on a normal 5 axle they allow different bridge spacing in different states
     
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