Big Loads - Post Photos Number 2

There’s no need to change because a couple of people like you bought a trailer? Unfortunately that’s not how the world works.

 

Then don’t get mad when someone can load on 8 axle what it takes you 10 to do. Also all the unnecessary added length and equipment weight. Added cost to escorts and permits.

 

I’m all for making money and all that you can, it’s a skill and investment and you should be compensated well. But to make things more expensive than they have to be not to mention complicated like you pointed out is asinine.

 

Then legalize it to load on a 5 axle set up like they do in Mexico to reduce the cost even farther.

I am very glad you are worried about the unnecessary cost of the shippers. The cost is applied equally and becomes part of the cost of doing business in the destination area.

You don’t seem worried about the unnecessary cost of the OH permit as compared to AZ or CA permit. There is no great push to standardize permit cost.

$16 for CA or $1400 for OK

 

I can agree on the permit cost. But the problem is far bigger than east coast trying run west coast. Our states are much smaller and you cross into many more jurisdictions. A load may move through 3 states and the state in the middle won’t recognize the axle configuration. Even if the west coast had the same setup I probably still wouldn’t run out there. For the same reasons you have to DH to the east coast to get a load.

 

There is can load it

And can load it legally

I compete against the 8 axle thing all the time, I fully understand my configuration cost/limitations. That is the current model.

I can ##### about needing a pilot car for length on the interstate but I still pay it.

My issue is still the same - people operating non-conforming equipment is stealing money from the companies operating legally.

It is the same argument running carb compliant trucks. I don’t care if you think it some moral wrong - it is the current law and should be enforced. I object to the restrictive nature of the tax code but that doesn’t give me the right to not pay taxes.

 

The cost to the shipper is honestly secondary but why should a few states be able to hold the rest of the country hostage? Then explain why those few states shouldn’t be standardized like the rest of the country? There’s a LOT of 8 axle guys that can’t get in on that revenue, if the freight is originated in California and destined for an eastern location why doesn’t make sense to ship in on a lighter rig? I’m not sure why there’s no push in permit costs, bring it up to SCRA. It’s definitely not as big of a deterrent as the weight allowances.

I will tell you this, I was told at the seminar I attended with the SCRA at conexpo that California is very receptive to the 80,000 quad concept. If California falls so will the rest out there.

 

The can load it legally is why there is a need for this change. I get it, that it’s not good for you.

 

I do fully agree about about running noncompliant equipment and I’m surely not endorsing that, the thing is there’s people in California that want this change. It happened in Ohio and it helped a bunch. Why should a contractor in California be able to load that 27 on an 8 axle rig like we do instead of of a rig like yours? I used to pull a 9 axle all the time because we had to. I’d move that scraper or bigger excavator then there I was with a big useless trailer, still subject to daylight hours and permits even empty. Now I’ll move a 27, flip my axle or drop it and and I can move anything else that needs moved. The versatility is very valuable.

The buggy whip manufacturers hated the automobile but it came anyway.

 

Right now I'm in the middle of bouncing 1750 miles home empty after sitting in Vegas half the week.
Could have loaded a 61k piece to Northern Ontario out of Cali.
Without ca/az in the mix it would have been easy peasy.

I don't see how this is any different than the miss river states was back in day at 72,380 being a barrier to interstate commerce.
Perfect example is their +48' trailer 40' kingpin to rear axle law...