Big Loads - Post Photos Number 2

Didn’t we just go through this...
You can do it cheaper to save the shipper all the unnecessary costs that comes with unstandardized permitting requirements. So therefore you will have to cut rates from the existing levels to levels commensurate with an 8 axle cost structure. That means the lower equipment investment costs, the lower permit costs, the escort costs and unfortunately the lower labor costs ( not you specifically - it will take fewer days potentially based on curfews routes and such). So when you take that into account and the larger number of available 8 axle configurations - the rate will be lower and very likely the profit will also be lower.

Don’t believe me? You deadheaded out of TX because the rates weren’t strong enough to support your cost structure- when there were multiple brokers offering Cat machines going north, northwest and east. I believe you went 700 miles or more to move a load.

So - I never said you were a rate cutter but this is real life. So a guy with a ragged out 35 ton with 2 flip axles and a grafted on lift axle on his freight truck hauled those machines for $3.50 mile

 

I agree

 

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"....in this case I'd say that's a very true statement.

Theres guys like Segi the internet sensation Heavy Haul that just happened to be independently wealthy. Weather it was a insurance settlement, a divorce, maybe inheritance or just was in the right financial situation at the time, anyone with access to that type of financial advantage could buy a large setup, get their authority and start into the big stuff. Segi is a prime example of that.

That guy that hasnt paid his dues. Yet goes straight to the big stuff and charge huge rates over guys that have been doing it for years, but get pissy acting when they hear that someone might be able to do the load legally with less expense on a different setup. Kind of ridiculous really.

 

I could get behind a 3+1 with standardized 54” axle spacing and uniformity on axle wgts. It’s not so much the quad for me. It the complexity of trying to route over and around some of the odd ball states. I also think the state dot need to pay closer attention to what’s hauling this stuff up the road

 

What about the thousands of contractors and locals in these states that would greatly benefit? Are their needs not important?

 

That California contractor is going to have the same cost basis as any other contractor trying to move that machine into or out of California. This is the same as a regional cost of labor.

The cost is passed to the end buyer and moving the equipment is a rounding error in job requiring machines large enough for us to be having this discussion. It is a very narrow range of weights we are talking about - loads generally over 80-3k and less than 95k.

Machines moving locally move on ca 5 axle trailer that load faster and are shorter than any 8 axle setup out there. The 16 tire guys can scal #### close to 90 and if they go 7 axles they can go much heavier - but they can not go east do to restrictive permitting requirements.

 

Benefit from what?

 

Ok, but if they could move a 90,000 pound machine then pick up a skid loader and run it somewhere else how much does that affect them? We’re not just talking about California.

 

Versatility, I posted it in the post above.

 

I do argree I face this every load .
But this is where the skill comes in and hopefully kepts the rates up .
Believe me I know it's a pain in the *ss.
But my fear is the easier the game is to play the more people we have playing the game .
I could be wrong . I get that.
I was talking to the safety lady about a app that you could just put your permit number in and it would map the route out .
She loved the idea .
But then I realized if you can't figure out the route should you really be pulling the load .
And yes at times I have needed help to figure it out .