Billionth split sleeper question

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  1. mstrchf117

    mstrchf117 Medium Load Member

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    Normally I don't use the split sleeper, don't want to mess with it, but right now only way to make otd on my current load. I'm in EST(PA). Had a delivery at 1930. Was in the door about 2.5hrs logged off duty. Drove 2hrs to shutdown about midnight. Went pretty much straight to sleeper. If I log 8hrs sleeper I'll have my full 11/14 back? Final delivery is 0900,
     
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  3. keebler13579

    keebler13579 Heavy Load Member

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    You wont have your full hrs back. Dependong on how.much on duty time you used will determine hrs gained. If you were off duty for 2.5hrs only required to have 7.5hrs in sleeper. If you only drove 2 hrs after your 2.5 hrs off duty then you should have 9 hrs driving after yoyr 7.5 hr breakd
     
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  4. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    Rather late to ask that question, and how much time (and sleep) are you going to lose waiting for an answer?
     
  5. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    No you will have the 2 hours you drove after your 2.5h off duty claim. So you have 9 hours of driving left and 14 minus (D+OD) left. You will have this 9 and 12 available actually after 7.5h in the sleeper. Or you can wait until you have 10h sleeper about 10 am and you will have full 11/14 renewed.
     
  6. mstrchf117

    mstrchf117 Medium Load Member

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    Nevermind I'm just doing a 10. I drove for like 5hrs before the first stop. Idk what the point is.
     
  7. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    You could’ve done 7.5 in the sleeper and gotten back 9 hours of driving. The 5 hours of driving before the 2.5 off duty don’t figure into anything once you do the 7.5 sleeper to get your break.
     
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  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    It's best to have split-break in your mind BEFORE you start your day and to be 100% clear about how to do it or it is just too easy to screw up and have an "egregious HOS violation". I found when I tried to "rescue" a wasted long waiting period by trying to use Split-Break I wasn't sure I was doing it correctly and I also couldn't rest as my mind was racing trying to figure out if I was correct or how much time I would have once sleeper period ended.

    Compliments to the OP for posting a short and sweet question and not the typical "I was going from A to B because the boss wanted me to talk to a guy about the fishing trips they had in 1997 where they hooked this fish than was 10 pounds and then left it in a cooler in a gas station where Junebug used to work. Anyway I started at 6:17 and drove past the old square building as that was ....... How many hours can I drive?
     
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  9. JC1971

    JC1971 Road Train Member

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    The time you use between the short break and the sleeper break is subtracted from what would normally be a clock with fully-available hours after a 10-hour break. You would then have to sit for the amount of time that you didn't spend sitting to complete a 10-hour break.

    As Long FLD said, since you sat 2.5 hours off-duty, you only had to do 7.5 in the sleeper. You don't have to only do 7.5 in the sleeper, you could do 8 if you want in which case you would only have to sit 2 hours off-duty to get the rest of your time back.

    Basically, it has to add up to ten hours except the sleeper break has to be a minimum of 7 hours and the short break has to be a minimum of two hours. 7/3, 7.5/2.5, 8/2, 7.25/2.75, etc

    I use it all the time. I've ran all the way from Washington to Arizona using split break because it was the only way to make the delivery on time after a long load late in the day. The amount of time you sit at a shipper over 2 hours can be subtracted from your ETA if you use split break. If you take a full 10-hour break it adds two hours to your arrival time.

    Also, if the receiver doesn't take long enough to unload you to complete your short break, you'll have to find somewhere to park on the street or a nearby truck stop and restart your break. That's one disadvantage, especially if there isn't anywhere to park.

    It's difficult to understand at first but extremely useful once you figure it out.
     
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  10. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    A long load time goes on to the back end of the load and they can reschedule it.
    I'm not doing splits or short breaks to make up for someone else's mistakes.

    This whole notion of cutting into my break time because sales or planners or shippers/receivers don't do things right is nonsense.

    All these JIT loads that HAVE to get there on time, with so little time to work with?
    They need to plan things better to allow more time between shipping and receiving times.
     
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