Black Out On RATE CONFIRMATIONS

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by outonalimb, Nov 22, 2015.

  1. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    In post #3, the OP said he was paid as a sub-contractor. I can't think of a single employer yet that has won the 1099 battle in court.
     
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  3. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    His word against the company? What nonsense. Does he have ettlement statements vs. paystubs?
     
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    rank Road Train Member

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    Don't want to put words in his mouth, but I *think* Snowy is suggesting that the OP has no written contract that sets out the terms of his percentage....i.e. what percentage? percentage of gross? percentage net of fuel, percentage net of any in house "brokerage fees" etc etc etc.

    What I am saying is.....the employer is up a creek on the 1099 issue and they will have to pay back taxes to the gov't and what not if the OP squeals to the IRS and if they follow up. Best to just pay what they owe the OP and let him go away. Of course once the OP is paid he may squeal anyway. That's the risk you take with a 1099 and that's why we don't do it here....even when the employee wants to.
     
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    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    Fair enough, i assumed he was talking about an employment contract per se.

    Even without that contract, it will be immediately obvious from settlement statement what the agreement was (i.e. what the percentage was, and what was included in the gross). If they are fudging those numbers in the office before sending the statement out, any lawyer will have their ### in a sling during discovery. It'll never make it to a judge.
     
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  6. powerhousescott

    powerhousescott Medium Load Member

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    This happened to my dad years ago, he was afraid to file the taxes because he thought the IRS would come after him. It screwed me out of going to college that year, so I went off to the Army instead. When he finally went to the IRS and filed the taxes they went after the employer for the taxes owed, and my dad was not trying to squeal. There is a proper way to run a 1099 program and that is what we do at our company. There are more rip offs out there that are just simply trying to take advantage of the drivers and not pay their fair share in taxes. I would rather pay our operators more and let them take the deductions for being self-employed vs holding money out of their pay and giving it to the government. Our operators lease the equipment or own their own, pay for the fuel, decide if and where they want to run, take care of the maintenance, and so on. If we were to try and force them to do what we wanted then they become employees, I am amazed at how many in trucking and other industries want to make others sub-contractors but still want to control them like employees. You can't have it both ways it is one or the other.
     
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  7. outonalimb

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    UPDATE: Finally got my last "Check" today. These pieces of $hi! took out ALL of the fuel that i used to get home, because they are trying to say I went "ROUGE" with their truck. They also took out money for supposed "Damage" to their truck. They said in a letter (with my check) that I was FIRED because I was "INSUBORDINATE -refusal to do what was told to do".
    So for 8 drops in two weeks from (TX/FLA/PA/NY) on the road they only paid me $200.00.
    Well I am sorry but if I owned a company and someone went "Rouge" with my truck I would turn off the fuel card, I would call and report it. (I have proof that he called me and I called him MULTIPLE times when i was on my way back and talking for several minutes each time.. dude that's what cells phones can do now a days)
    (I also took a lot of PICTURES of the truck when I parked it in their yard)
    Tell me how exactly a "sub-contractor" can be fired for being insubordinate?
    LORD HAVE MERCY - GIVE ME THE STRENGTH NOT TO DO SOMETHING STUPID!!
    I cannot wait til next week to see my lawyer. These people have lost their dang minds!!
     
  8. rank

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    I hope you have a legal fund.

    I think you're in the right and I think you will "win" but you're going to have to front alot of money and whatever you"win" probably won't be worth your time. That said, I would probably call my lawyer too.

    Since 2007, I've been in a wrongful dismissal suit against my former employer of 17 years and I still haven't seen any money but I have them where I want them LOL. Mind you, I am suing one of the largest companies in the US, however IIRC my lawyer says his bill is up to $18,000. Are you prepared to lay out legal fees for that long?

    The good news is, now that you're been "terminated for insubordination", you might be entitled to severance. :)
     
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