Bottom line, is this accurate?

Discussion in 'Lease Purchase Trucking Forum' started by CasanovaCruiser, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. CasanovaCruiser

    CasanovaCruiser Road Train Member

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    Im not really looking at leasing. Just had some time on my hands and I'm looking at numbers curiously trying to figure out what would be my break even point.
    I used the generic 10,000 mile/month figure. The truck payment is for a new Cascadia from Lone Mountain.

    Here's what I came up with:

    Monthly
    Truck payment: $2,600
    Fixed truck costs: $1,200
    Maintenance/tires: $2,000
    Fuel: $5,000 (10,000 mi @ 6 mpg & $3/gal)

    Personal
    Cell: $130
    Food: $300
    Rent: $200
    Insurance: $100

    Total cost: $11,530
    Bottom line @ 10,000 miles: $1.16

    I know I went way wrong here because there is no way anyone is making any money like this...

    With my expenses I practically live for free and this is cutting it close so what am I missing
     
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  3. lots of character

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    lots of character Road Train Member

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    I'd actually add more on the maintenance roll back. ####s getting expensive again
     
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  5. STexan

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    Plus, are you in any way accruing equity in the truck with all the lease payments? Where are your tolls? Fixed truck costs may be a little high depending on what you have in there. Also any in there for unpaid OOR miles, or unpaid empty miles (going home)?

    But most places have the FSC fixed to where as long as you can run above 6 MPG your fuel will be about $1.20 gallon but any fuel discounts that may or may not kick in can greatly affect this, too.
     
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    Initially I had $4k a month going into maintenance. Then thought ehh it would be a brand new truck with a good warranty.
    The numbers just shocked me, I expected a lot more meat on the bone.
     
  7. CasanovaCruiser

    CasanovaCruiser Road Train Member

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    I threw the number $1,200 out there as a guess at what it would cost for everything the truck needs. Fuel tax, registration, tolls, insurance.
    I know some of those costs arent fixed but it's just a rough estimate
     
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    lots of character Road Train Member

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    Why do you think there are so many lease trucks with ~40,000 miles, 100,000 miles etc. Hard to be successful with it, when the decks stacked in the houses favor before you sit down to play
     
  9. CasanovaCruiser

    CasanovaCruiser Road Train Member

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    Sounds more like you have to bend over to play that game
     
  10. STexan

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    And a few of the third party lease companies can and do actually charge lessees for excess miles! (generating more miles then they anticipated it would have at trade in)
     
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    Bottom line is they have the numbers jiggered to where you must run hard and you must run hard for at least 48-50 weeks a year and not have any unforeseen incidents (with family or the truck) ... and this gets you to a modest $45k salary and break-even on the truck side. But if the freight is not there one or 2 months, or you have to take a month off due to health or truck crash or blown engine issues, you're looking at potential bankruptcy real quick in either of those scenarios.

    It's scary and it all depends on the pay model and the freight availability that you can find. Too many variables, that all come back to put the trucker at 100% liability (risk) if/when things go south.
     
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