Breaking into the dump industry

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by Keefer, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. Keefer

    Keefer Bobtail Member

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    I am an experienced businessman but am new to this industry. I'm located in Colorado. We are not drivers ourselves. We want to buy trucks, line up work, and hire drivers. My business partner and I are looking to buy 2 tandem dump trucks but are not sure exactly what to buy. We want to haul asphalt, dirt,rock, and other debris. We want to get into road construction and flood clean up work. I have included a link to a truck we are possibly interested in buying. We are looking to spend $40,000 total on our first 2 trucks roughly $20,000 each.
    Any advice that you can offer will be greatly appreciated.
    Thank you in advance!

    http://www.wwtruck.com/inventory.ht...t.aspx?ETID=1&pcid=2001118867&dlr=1&bcatid=27
     
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  3. Jokingypsy

    Jokingypsy Medium Load Member

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    The best way to make a million dollars in the trucking industry is to start with 2 million. If you have no industry experience do yourself a favor, buy a pizza shop or lotto tickets, maybe even a strip club.


    Adam
     
  4. Keefer

    Keefer Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for you insight and your advise Adam Jokinggypsy.
    After considering your suggestions for about 3.5 seconds I have decided to continue to blaze my own trail in the business of dump trucking. Maybe I'm a little hard headed?
    I am committed to succeeding in this venture so any realistic comments and/or suggestions would be very helpful.
    I am working hard to obtain the American dream...
    Thanks again!
     
  5. BUMBACLADWAR

    BUMBACLADWAR Road Train Member

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    No offense,but you need to hire some experienced dispatchers and drivers some good ones that can sort of train you as you go,make you money and keep you out of hot water. At least till you start learning whats going on. Pay them well and learn as you go.They will be familiar with DOT regs,permits etc.Also secure a good lawyer. Hope this helps. JMO
     
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  6. Keefer

    Keefer Bobtail Member

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    Thanks BUMBACLADWAR JMO.
    Our plan is to pay our employees well. Running a good safe business is goal number 1. Through experiences with our other businesses we have learned that if we take good care of our employees, they will take good care of us. At the start of this company our personal profits are a secondary concern. We realize that if we hire drivers with lots of experience then we can learn alot from them. The old saying that education is expensive is true.
    The big question I have now for any owner operators of dump trucks is; would this truck be a good one to start with? (See link below) This dealer has 3 of the same year and model. I'm considering buying two of them after having a mechanic look them over. Can anyone give me any advise on this size truck? Assuming that it checks out okay mechanically would it be a good truck to start with? And do you guys think it would be able to handle most common hauling jobs?
    http://www.wwtruck.com/inventory.htm...lr=1&bcatid=27
     
  7. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

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    If I read you right you own nothing and expect to bring up 2 legal units with demo buckets for under 20 k a piece? You'll want demo buckets cause aluminum won't make it long......

    Uhm...not likely. May want to rethink your budget...... or start with one......

    Good luck.....
     
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  8. Caterpillar Cowboy

    Caterpillar Cowboy Heavy Load Member

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    So much to say about this but before I say anything I need to get something straight.

    In post #1 it says you are an experienced businessman, yet in post #5 you say that making a profit is not your primary concern?

    Do you have a 'sister' company that needs some trucking done for a good price and some way you can account it to benefit your taxes? That is the only way that this would make any sense to me.
     
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  9. Caterpillar Cowboy

    Caterpillar Cowboy Heavy Load Member

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    That came out a lot more bluntly than I intended, my apologies.

    Let me put it this way. The 2 trucks in my 'company' are one is mine, and the one my dad drives. We are both partners in the company. Putting myself in the hypothetical situation of one, or both of us stepping out of the trucks and having to hire drivers for both of them, knowing my numbers, profits may still be made, but let's just say it's scary to think about.

    Also getting an older truck like those, It looks like you're looking at those mid 90's Mack's. You'll run into mechanical issues no matter what. May be as simple as a bad hose, electrical problem (not always simple), fan clutch, air dryer, air compressor, turbo, have to re-bush those camelbacks, dump hoist, pto, let alone god forbid you pop a motor, trans or rear end.

    I was told when I started out by a guy who'se been in and out of trucking for quite a while "If your breakdown costs under $1,000 you're doing good" and after being at this a while now that's pretty darned accurate.
     
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  10. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    Breaking into the dump industry? Easy, eat the burritos from the Flying J deli..........
     
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    Hi Keefer, Still doing flood cleanup? I heard that was quite a mess. I thought of going to Col. to do some of that, and to see your beautiful state. For what you're looking to do, you can't go wrong with a Mack. Toughest truck in the business. Might be a little more initially, and parts a little more, but well worth it. All trucks are pretty good, but there's a reason Mack is at the top of the heap. I drove several Macks, and you can't kill them, good luck.
     
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