Bridge Laws - Good Tips

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Canucklehead, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. Canucklehead

    Canucklehead Medium Load Member

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    Every state is it's own little fiefdom, with DOT and Highway Patrol officers just waiting to collect your hard earned money because they rely on no set national standard of laws regarding size and weight governing truckers. Besides the magic 80,000 lb GVW.
    It's just a cash grab
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I recall Kentucky allowing really high weights on certain bridges for coal and other purposes. But that was a very long time ago.

    The midatlantic we were surrounded by small roads with about a 73 thousand something max and it's just no way.

    The only time or three I can recall having trouble with local "Fiefdom" would have been on a old stone bridge on old US 15 north of Mansassas. They slapped a really light weight on there one day long ago and I crossed it full up under the eyes of a glowering steaming trooper.

    I was reduced to pathetic babbling in a few minutes trying to explain away the few barn sized signs on that side of the bridge.

    A big concrete span (Relatively...) replaced it soon after. I guess in say about 40 more years depending on the strength of the concrete and rebar vs water, expansion etc we might have to revisit that issue.

    If all the bridges. The one most abused was the old US 340 bridge just west of Harpers Ferry WVA. That one stood with weight restrictions for a very long time. Considering the trucking that crossed that vibrating span all those years it's a wonder we did not drop the #### thing. They replaced it eventually.

    My last trip across with a 18 wheeler loaded to 80000 was a day I wont forget. It did not just shake but also sort of rolled a little bit or leaned I guess is the word here and there on certain spots. And here comes a full up lumber stack flatbed aiming to pass me right on that bad spot. I wanted off there so bad. Thinking about 160000 pounds at about say 80 mph hitting that one spot. (Closure rate)
     
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  4. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    One would think if someone were to make an “instructional” video they would actually know what the hell they are talking about. This kind of crap just keeps breeding ignorance and confusing those who do not know the difference between BF/BL and KPRA. With all due respect to the OP, he bit the worm too.
     
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  5. Long FLD

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    There are set laws regarding size and weight on Interstate and National Network routes. KPRA regs really don’t have anything to do with size or weight. I don’t see how it’s a cash grab when it’s the drivers duty to know what the regs are for dragging a trailer over 48ft into a particular state. It’s no different than when I have to know what I can bridge on my axle groups in the NW and what I have to do differently when I cross the Canadian border. You can’t just drive blind and hope for mercy.
     
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  6. Canucklehead

    Canucklehead Medium Load Member

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    Easy to get into Canada with a tandem.

    Via metric to imperial:

    Steers - 12,100 lbs

    Drives - 37,400 lbs

    Bogies: 37,400 lbs

    If you've been running US maximum weights, then relax, it's all good.

    But, in BC the max wheelbase length for a tractor is all of 244". Crappy roads are the reason. But lately they've said longer tractors are allowed, but then it gets into a really complicated set of bridge type calculations.
     
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  7. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    I don’t run 80k. I max out at 102k for Canada.
     
  8. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    What's so difficult?
    1. Still cannot exceed 23m total length.
    2. As tractor wheelbase increases, trailer wheelbase must decrease an equal amount.
    3. Still do not bust the trailer 35% overhang rule.
     
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  9. Fold_Moiler

    Fold_Moiler Road Train Member

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    I gross 88k legally in my mixer with 6 axles.

    We have 7 axles ones too that go to almost 100k. I don’t want one though. My truck is already annoying enough to turn right corners with.

    I know downtown Minneapolis doesn’t let you weigh more than 80k though which is lame because we do probably 1000 yards of concrete a day just in downtown with 3/4 load instead of full.
     
  10. Canucklehead

    Canucklehead Medium Load Member

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    Tridems up here go up to 102,400 lbs legal GVW. My buggy weighed 23,245 lbs yeah yikes!!! Whenever I'd pick up a max load of water, I'd tell them to load me light in the first two rows. But had to pick up a trailer in Calgary on my way back. Could've killed dispatch. It was a tridem reefer. So more weight than a dry van. Just freaking great. And it was a oad of water going back to BC. Now that's bizarre. Anyhow I see it's got 60,050 in the box. Better and better. Was pre-loaded before I got there. So had no control over how it was loaded. Anyhow, it was sitting at 72 on my dash load gauge, that's make or break by a hair. Told them I may be back, but I had to drive to the Petro on Hwy by Cochrane exit to get it scaled. Told them I may be back in a little over an hour. get on the scale. jeez, I had under 10 pounds of room on all my axles, but didn't have to slide anything. And of course I topped the tanks up after that. because I wouldn't hit a government scale until Golden BC, after burning a bunch in the first part of the mountain route. Funny thing, I weighed more than at Golden in Kamloops. For those that don't run in BC very often, that's standard, Gol;den is always lighter than Kamloops. Why is beyond me, but I would say it's poor quality control by the government.
     
  11. aussiejosh

    aussiejosh Road Train Member

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    Or you could just avoid all the bridges :cool:
     
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