Broker/Carrier Contracts - Watch out! Read carefully!

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  1. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that means basically if there is a problem or accident the broker is not responsible.
    Some shippers make brokers have insurance on the freight in case there is an accident. Contingency cause, or insurance. If the trucking company fails to settle up, they go for the brokers insurance. By adding the indemnity, the brokers can fight that insurance payout.
     
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  3. true blue

    true blue Medium Load Member

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    6wheeler, I have no problem indemnifying the broker from any damages not associated with them. The problem is when the broker contract indemnifies everybody and their brother who loads, unloads or gets near your truck, so if you get hurt or they hit or damage your truck, you are SOL for getting compensation or even bringing it to court. That's unacceptable.
     
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  4. Pepper24

    Pepper24 Road Train Member

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    I not trying to be confrontational but why would you try to hold a broker responsible in any of your examples.loading,unloading,damages .I must be missing something
     
  5. Pepper24

    Pepper24 Road Train Member

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    You sound like a good yes man.If you run for a direct shipper like your claiming you do you sign a very similar contract,These shippers don't stand at the door and just hand out freight to anyone.Trust me they don't need you,Your doing a service for them.
     
  6. stayinback

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    And here it is...Been awaiting 1 of you borkers to chime in.

    Now that quote is just plain ridiculous.......They certainly don't need a broker

    Of Course we have contracts with them.. But they are simple because most of my customers are spot moves.....(weekly/monthly)......

    I work hard to secure my freight..And i've also taken Your freight"Brokers" for being dishonest and gouging a customers freight charge by your typical practices,

    So,I think the quote is "Broker,is not needed"

    If you guys were fair..Played nice, Didn't OBSTRUCT transportation with your tell-talr stressables.....Things would be better.. But, Since 8-10% isn't good enough for Leading carriers to freight...The trucking community prefers NOT to use your services......

    The Lazy,Novice carriers hunt you guys down via loadboards
     
  7. Pepper24

    Pepper24 Road Train Member

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    So you think a spot move or a regular move has a different contract.Dont care if you move one or a month or one a day,you sign the same contract for both.
     
  8. Pepper24

    Pepper24 Road Train Member

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    And I don't think you have any ideal what a brokers rate is if you were going to be honest.But the brokers are dishonest right.
     
  9. true blue

    true blue Medium Load Member

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    Pepper24, what I'm referring to is anyone who is loading or unloading you or me as a carrier, whether a shipper, consignee, rigger or other contractor will not be held liable for any damages to you or your vehicle should they do anything out of negligence or otherwise, if you don't strike out the clauses in the contract that specifically indemnify them. I don't have any problem indemnifying the broker and it's customers from any acts on the part of the carrier, but some of these contracts go too far and exonerate their customers to the detriment of the carrier being able to pursue legal action against them should they not want to pay for your truck if they damage it or for any injuries they might cause to you or your driver. This is just a case of greedy brokers protecting their own interests of keeping their customer happy at all costs, showing how little they care for or respect us as carriers.
     
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  10. true blue

    true blue Medium Load Member

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    Pepper24, I've had many companies that are my direct customers. Before the fall of '08, I had 95% all direct customer work and only 5% broker work. Since then things have changed greatly (thanks to the village idiot in the WH and all his and Hillary's crooked thugs determined to destroy America). But with the customers I now have and all the previous ones, I have NEVER had a contract to do business with them and was always paid either at pickup, COD or within a few days to maybe 2 weeks. I had one company that I finally parted ways with that paid 45 days, but I did a lot of wide loads on a consistent basis and made good money with them until they decided to get cheap. A couple of companies wanted to have a contract, but I didn't like what they wanted in the contract and walked out on them. Don't need a one-way contract. Either it's a win-win contract or I don't sign. The same with brokers.

    Ever ask a broker why his company gets to write the contract with another company they want to do business with (namely, the carrier) and why can't the carrier write one for the broker to sign, instead? You'll get some pretty confused, angry or dumbfounded responses! :D
     
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  11. Pepper24

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    Well your in a different athority then most if you have the ability to move freight on no contract.Most owner operators that run there own athority are on a contract athority which means a contract has to be in place.What kind of athority do you run.
     
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