Broker doesn't want to pay for extra miles

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by miket11, Jul 10, 2015.

  1. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    When my wife & I had our hot shot, we picked up a load of those metal street lamp poles from a company near Ft Worth, TX & was to take them to Austin if I remember correctly.. maybe San Antonio... I cant remember. Any way, I got within about 30 miles of the destination & the shipper called & said to bring the load back. There was a problem with the customers payment or something. I just asked how much to bring them back? He said the same thing I paid you to take them down. I was 30 miles short & he still paid for the entire mileage both ways, no questions, no fuss. I did & they paid. No question. I hauled 2 or 3 other loads for them during the time we had the truck. That's the way you want to do business... someone who respects you.

    One time, we were stuck in Florida & after about 2 days, we got a load from a guy about 50 miles away to pick up a small track hoe. It weighed less than 12,000 lb, but I dont remember exactly. When we go to the place to pick it up, it was a huge track hoe that required a removable gooseneck & weighed about 100,000 or something. I called the broker & he said he looked up the weight for the model hoe that was given to him & it showed what he told me. Since I drove about 50 miles to pick it up, I asked for him to pay me for the mileage & he wouldn't. Not much I could do since I had never loaded it. I just kinda got stuck on that one. Obviously, I never called him again.
     
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  3. kw600

    kw600 Road Train Member

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    What do you do in cases where you tell them you will take it to a junk yard and they don't send you a new rate confirmation?
    Ive never had to say that, but what are you actually gonna do? Just sit at a truck stop with the load until you get a new rate conf? What if it takes a few days? Can they call the police on you for holding the load hostage?
     
  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Don't blink man. Whatever it takes! Lol
     
  5. brknwng

    brknwng Bobtail Member

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    I agree with that! Take the load back and when it's unloaded pull off the dock and refuse to load until someone rectifys their mistake!
     
  6. Terry270

    Terry270 Road Train Member

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    Police can't do squat. Its a civil matter. You're obviously not stealing anything as you have a bill of lading for it to be on your trailer.

    Worst case scenario do exactly what the contract states and deliver to the address specified. If they refuse delivery that opens up other doors for you
     
  7. 2Girls_1Truck

    2Girls_1Truck Medium Load Member

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    If you signed a contract, I don't think they'd much luck arguing that THEY can breach the contract (change the terms without consent or signatures) but if YOU change the contract, you're violating the law somehow.

    Fact is, you agreed to do so many miles for so much money. If they want to add miles, they are opening the contract to be re-negotiated.

    Reality though, is that if you want to keep working with this broker you may not want to blow the relationship up over something on principle. If this broker has been good to you, it might be worth letting it slide. That would be your perogative, but the contract has already been breached and not by you, so you're in a good position to negotiate.
     
  8. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Wouldn't worry about it blowing up any relationship with them. They will keep calling to sell a load regardless of this incident or whatever empty threats, lies this particular agent says. Already seen it before happen before.
     
  9. rank

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    You left out. "And now I'm another 5 miles down the road and the price is $175"
     
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  10. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Ahhh yes Blue Star. They double brokered a load to me through Ceva a few years ago. The customs paperwork wasn't in order so my driver had to wait 7 hours at the customs booth while Ceva tried to get the consignee to pay taxes and duty on the machine. Consignee refused becauee it was only going to a trade show. Meanwhile LS refused to pay me detention, didn't answer the phone etc. 7 hrs later when he got on the Canadian side it was too dark to unload so I told him bring that thing back to the yard. Ohhhhh the Big Blue Star was PI$$SED. I told them I will sit on this forever until you give me detention and pay my extra miles. They threatened to have the cops charge me with theft and all that. I got my rate con a few days later.

    And that is the story of how I got black listed by BS
     
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  11. Scuba Steve

    Scuba Steve Light Load Member

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    Your absolutely right in saying it's not cheap to run a truck, and since it wasn't your fault that you where given the wrong load, I would definetly have to be compensated to go back that far and keep in mind that burns into your hours for the day as waisted time, and as for the broker getting mad at you, why not get mad at the people that put the wrong load on your trailer, broker should charge the shipper for their mistake and you should charge the broker since you can't charge the shipper in this case, stand your ground!!
     
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