Wichris pretty much summed it up. It takes a lot of calls just to get a hold of someone and talk to them live, even more calls to find someone who needs capacity, and more to secure someone's business. I haven't been in this industry this long but when dealing with shippers it seems to follow other similar service industries that I have experience with. A majority of shippers have been using someone (broker or carrier) for years and won't change providers, even if you have lower prices, etc. But if you follow up with them on a regular basis (not often enough to bother, but often enough for them to remember who you are), then you may catch them on a day where they are hurting for capacity and you may be able to fill that void and get a foot in the door.
A lot of larger companies put their lanes out for bid on a regular basis or when they are looking to add providers to their pool, normally this only happens once per year or on some sort of regular interval. In this case you may find it easy to talk with the right person with the shipper, but you may wait 6 months or more to get a chance to bid on their lanes.
Then there is a smaller percentage of shippers that live day to day and rely on a group of carriers and brokers to cover their freight on the spot. Its tough dealing with these types because they usually are just wanting someone to move their freight on the cheap, but you never know, catch them on a day when they are in a bind or on a lane that they have more room on and you can get your foot in the door and build the relationship from there. Find out if its a regular run for them and take that lane on a regular basis.
I would think you have an advantage representing yourself as an asset based broker. You should be able to speak confidently to your customer about capacity (since you have your own trucks, etc.), which most are bound to like, but you have the flexibility to use your broker authority if need be. In the bulk world (hoppers, end dumps, etc.) an asset based broker probably carriers a little more weight when selling loads to other carriers than does a non asset based broker, at least that's my experience. However I'm not sure the same can be said for flatbed, van, reefer, etc. loads due to the reputation of some of those types of asset based brokers out there.
Either way you look at it, it takes a lot of work either calling or trying to meet people face to face. I switched from asset based broker in the bulk world to an agent about a year ago. Fortunately I was able to take a small book of business in the bulk world with me, as well as a decent amount of contacts, but it has taken me a long time to get going with shippers that offer flatbed, van, reefer, etc. freight, it just takes time and a lot of persistence.
Broker Strategies/Tips
Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by gibbsfree, Mar 20, 2014.
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Excellent feedback and very insightful responses.
Bruceb,
I should have given a little more background; I originally drove a truck for a couple years, and my brother asked me to hop on with his carrier company which has been in business since 1992. My brother's English is terrible, he was born and raised over seas, and I was raised here (he is 17 years older than me... don't ask). That is why they have been using truck boards to get loads; they don't have the interpersonal and communication abilities to obtain loads directly from shippers. We are located in Northern California, primarily using 53ft Vans (own 20+). We have plenty of freight to carry on the trucks; majority of which is obtained via truck boards. We have some contracts in place with a few shippers that give loads directly to us.
The brokerage part of the question is where I come in. This is where my incentive lies to work for my brother's company. He wants me to start getting loads, and eventually develop it into a separate entity from the carrier side. Its a win-win because I get the experience and have trucks available, and he gets better rates for him and his drivers (in theory, which not always works out like on paper). I too like speaking with strangers and have a great deal of confidence when I speak, so I feel like I have the fundamental skills that are required. I just lack the experience. To tell you the truth, I've been prepping for sales calls for multiple months until I actually started making calls this past month. I've done a lot of reading, going through forums, speaking with folks in the industy, books, etc... But actual experience and what you learn in the field can't be taught in books. Responding and adjusting to road-blocks during sales calls comes with experience.
In regards to researching a shipper, I have done the same; google not only a company, but if i get the name of the freight manager, I type their name on google. I go straight to linked-in and see if the freight manager for has a profile, and look at his background. I guess where I am lacking is experience in speaking with shippers. I always do the necessary preparation and research prior to making a call, but after reading your post, it seems that I may sound like i'm BSing to the shippers.
PM me about the load, I'll definitely entertain your offering. And thanks for your detailed response filled with nuggets of information. I appreciate the insight and value you added to this discussion.
Edit: Question, why do you not use large shippers? My initial experience with the larger guys shows that they tend to use larger brokerages due to their increased capacity, and often provide much lower rates. -
I have a question for other freight brokers, I have been running a brokerage here in Calif since 2005 it was easy for me to have my 10 thousand dollars just sitting in an account and keeping my permit alive. Now as you know the bond went up to 75 thousand dollars which I do not have so the bonding company put us brokers on a plan we have to pay 700 dollars every 3 month for a plan to keep us up and leagle at the 75 thousand dollars. I have never had a claim on my bond always had an open door policy where anyone I've broker to can come in and see what the load payed and what was my commission " 30 years as a trucker looking for an honest broker I had to become one because I knew the hardship truckers endured" well my question is does anyone know of a cheap bonding company because I have already asked for my bond money back and am being forsed out of the trade
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Gibbs,
I do not have experience in the Northern California freight market but it seems you have a good understanding on what you want to accomplish. Your ability to speak intelligently with the written word is apparent. It's surprising to me that you can operate profitably using Load Boards.
Hopefully your brother's MC for the carrier side has no yellow flags on it's current safety record.
I would be calling on the 3pl's, and freight forwarders with your contact info and lanes you already provide good service in to let them know you have capacity and to give you an opportunity. I would build from the carrier side and broker when sent to area's that you don't want to run with your brother's trucks.
I would contact the places where you already deliver to with your direct shippers and inquire if the truck just Mt'd could get a load somewhere. If you deliver on time there are there any other places you could bring them freight, inbound or outbound, from for your new brokerage division.
When you call on somebody that says they give all their freight to XYZ 3pl ask for the contact person there to send them your info as a carrier. Yes somebody else has their hands on the freight 1st but it works like that alot and you can't change that you work with it.
The 3pl's need good carriers to make them look good and they pay their carriers promptly.
I would plan on calling on shippers as a carrier and not even mentioning brokering to garner new business. If you are asked to quote lanes where your trucks don't want to go, then be honest with the shipper and tell them you don't go there but would they object to servicing them with your brokerage dept. Once a relationship has started and you're moving freight with your trucks, it's a smooth transition in my experience. At that point, you've earned their trust and can grow your brokerage side.
Hearing that you are encountering objections, road blocks as you say, is great news. That means they need more info before letting their guard down.
Give em facts. You are a carrier with an excellent safety record looking for new business in a tight capacity market for trucks. You are never going to be the cheapest guy because you run your trucks at a fair rate. You are quick to respond and would like the opportunity to demonstrate your service. Do you have any shipments that you could quote?
Then shut up and let them speak next. Whats the worst that can happen? They say no ? Hey my brother needs these loads in the worst way and maybe doesn't speak so good the english but did I fail to mention he was a champion Kick Boxer Knife Thrower back in my country?
To answer your large shipper question. I was trained to stay away from them as low pay, slow pay and not worth the effort to compete with the mega carriers that handle their business. So I stay away and look for smaller companies to help.
The heck with Linked IN go to facebook and find out the prospects likes,music and tv shows, friends,zombies,vacation spots etc. They don't have to know you stalked them to find some common ground that came out in your discussion. Heck you might have some common ground that will help build your trust. If they like Nirvana music, put that on your cpu on Pandora softly playing in the background while you talk. Look at the companies Facebook page to gain additional info on who you are conversing with.
Mention to the prospect that you see on their Co's Facebook page that they have some killer parties, or cupcakes, or baseball game outings
that it looks like a lot of fun to work there. Be careful with this line of attack as you might say how fat is that lady in real life that got
pushed into the pool and she happens to be the accts payable clerk the prospect has a crush on. It's like dating, Match.com stuff. salesman stuff. Am I making any sense? You have to build some kind of rapport to break the ice and then if you truly have something to offer and they aren't interested. Move on. It wasn't meant to be. Go onto the next target.
From what little bit of info I have on you. Call the prospect and in a few words let them know your interest in assisting their transportation needs, you know they are busy and well cared for already, could you get their email address to send them your info please?
Then let your writing skills take over in a well thought out, concise, 5 sentence email telling them why they need to keep you in mind for a Plan B when their current provider inevitably will drop the ball on them.
Have a web site to link to from the email that will tell them the many more reasons they could benefit from using your services.
Be honest in all your dealings and don't make promises you can't keep.gibbsfree Thanks this. -
This is going to be long and probably not well written but here you go but I promise it will go somewhere
I have never had much luck with cold calling but I have had luck with networking with people and calling on my current customer's customers.
Here is my qualified advice so take it for what it is worth:
You already have customers contact the people you pick up from or deliver to for them it is very easy to explain to the shipping department who you are because they already know you they will give you the contact info you need. You need to find you in and it can be that easy.
I really never figured out what was going on until I was shopping for clothes one day and started thinking about a shirt and how much transportation is needed to make that on cotton shirt.
Cotton picked from the field and baled and loaded onto the truck and taken to a warehouse. Cotton loaded onto a truck from warehouse to manufacturer. Finished product loaded on truck and taken to a distribution warehouse. Distribution warehouse loads up the shirt either LTL or small parcel. Point being there is a lot of transportation going on and you are just looking for a small piece.
I have a friend who knows the owner of that clothing company. I was introduced to him by his friend. I came up with a great plan to where my company would be in control of the supply chain from raw material to finished product which is what we do. This solution is very profitable to me but also saves him money and time at the same time.
This story is actually about the ability of networking and I believe this is the best way to get business. If you have a way in to talk to someone they will listen to not only but will tell you what they are looking for.
Example you call A "Hey Adam this is Bryan from ABC Company I got you name from Charlie" Adam will sometimes say something like "Charlie is good guy how is doing" Instant in and trust is built as to a timid approach to a cold call. I always try to set up lunch or drinks or at least a meeting to get face to face interaction.
Just think about all the people you know and what they do and how a truck gets it there. Now if all you friends are doctors and lawyers then my don't listen to my advice.gibbsfree and rollin coal Thank this. -
A couple more things you must offer something that is going to set you apart from every other asset based broker. Being an asset based broker does already give you a leg up on the competion because a potential customer already has it in there mind that you will use a company truck to pick up a missed load or a load that an outside carrier falls off of. This is a huge advantage and selling point and a way many times I have received that one call from a potentional customer to get to working with them because another broker dropped a load back a customers lap at 5 pm friday and they were desperate.
Another thing I would look at doing is setting up a small quick presentation on your company and have the ability to tweak it to a new potential customers needs. Power point works great I prefer a website but that is just me. Sending out emails to people without speaking to them first is a guarantee to be deleted before being looked at. After you get into contact with the correct person who makes the decision on transportation get there email by saying "Hey I wanted to send you over all my information and a brief presentation about who we are what we do" They will look at it I promise.
I had a transportation manager tell me the reason he called me back because he took a look at the link in my email to my website and was very impressed. This was how I came up with this strategy.
Even if you dont have a website you can do a flashy power point. But make it quick and get you message across. Websites are a cheap way for advertisement for your company for $5-10k you can be set up pretty nice and make sure it is updated. I have a section on my website and when a new company moves into our area we put an announcement welcoming that company to the area. Pretty easy way to keep you up at the top of the google hits.
I would also come up with a script and practice it for when you make the call to someone make sure it comes off natural best way to practice it is in front of a group of people.gibbsfree Thanks this. -
you may want to rethink #5 of not soliciting freight right away. What has worked for me is to only contact a shipper when I have a truck available to them RIGHT NOW !
Put yourself in their shoes, they're probably a lot more concerned about the loads they have to move that day than establishing a relationship or developing a plan to work your trucks into their system. I've had pretty good luck getting my foot in the door when they have a problem load ready to go and I can say "no problem, I'll have a truck there in 1/2 hour if you want".gibbsfree Thanks this. -
Marcatrans - I probably wouldn't go with the cheapest, but definitely go with one that is trusted. Someone that you know will spend resources in fighting claims need-be-it. We use pacific financial; Call them, research online. I'm sure others here have some recommendations.
NHS - In reference to the the bidding period, my brother was stressing to me that March was the month when most shippers let carriers to bid. Based off the information he gave me, I assumed that this was the only chance for the rest of the year to score some shipper's business, so this added a sense of urgency to my search. This also led to a lower quality in my research of shippers prior to a sales call. Currently our carrier trailer assets primarily include dry van with a few reefer, so it seems I won't be bringing much to the table in that aspect. Besides some assets based brokers having a bad reputation, what are some other road blocks that have led you to take longer to get going with shippers that offer flatbed, van, reefer, etc.. freight?
Bruce- Thanks for your kind words. I do have my bachelors, so that definitely has helped with my writing. It's actually pretty surprising how much profit we make through load boards; it just goes to show how big the pie is. Another relative of mine is also a "carrier" (not sure if they can be considered such since all they own is dry van trailers), lets call them company X. Company X has a large amount of O/Os that work for them who use their trailers to haul loads, and they are also highly profitable. Company X get loads from load boards, and then give them out to the O/Os that use their trailers. I'm not sure if this can be considered double broking, but there seems to be a fine line there on how they run their business. The loads they get from load boards are given to them with the posting broker's fee applied, and they then give the loads to their drivers after taking their cut ("for using their trailers"). Point I'm trying to make is that they are still profitable by running their business off loads that are already given to them with the broker's fees applied.
Questions, when calling 3PLs, is it OK to be more direct versus calling a shipper?
I can't believe I haven't thought of looking for the shipper's name on Facebook, that is such a great way to build sales intelligence for the call. Honestly, this discussion has shone some new light for me in regards to what I'm doing wrong, and how I can build upon the "rights".
If you don't mind me asking, how did you end up where you are? I'm just curious because you have such a large wealth of knowledge on the subject and I'm curious to know how long you've been doing this and how you got started.
cominghome - This is some excellent advise. We have have delivered to a fairly large amount of people, so my next step there is to start contacting those guys. And you're right, I guess having assets and trucks available on the ready is definitely a good selling point. I'm definitely going to try the presentation approach, that is something out of the box; and it helps when you have a decent/nice looking website. I just got a website made for my brother's business, and am in the process of getting one made for myself. You can check it out www.whitetigerxpress.com ; its still a work in progress. Some of the content needs to be edited, but overall I think the designer did a decent job. The guy I hired did the design, content, logo, photo-shopping all the pictures, and hosting for around $800. This was definitely on the cheap end when I was looking for people to create the website, so if anyone is interested PM me and I can forward you my designers contact. Anyway, back to your point, it does help to be professional. It shows that you actually put in time, work, and effort in your business. As far as a script goes, I do have a couple scripts that I use, which I tend to tailor for each prospect. Although after reading all the replies in this post, my script will probably have a major overhaul.
danny - good point. I guess as a follow-up question, do you think that by asking for the business right away it is possible that you might not get the best rate? I mean, this is a competitive business; I would expect the prospect to be getting a lot of calls asking for business. This might be an assumption since I've never been in the shipper's shoes. But to your point, it is also a fast moving industry, so I can see the logic behind trying to fulfill any immediate needs of the prospects. And by helping covering a load that they need off right away, it can definitely set you up in eventually building a relationship.
I don't think I've ever read a post where everyone adds some type of value to the overall discussion. I appreciate that, and I'm sure others reading do as well. So thanks!
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