Brokers are Making A Killing on these loads! (screen shots)

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  1. rch10007

    rch10007 Medium Load Member

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    Research Tort and you’ll figure out how brokers do what they do.
     
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  3. AsphaltFarmer

    AsphaltFarmer Medium Load Member

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    Begging or... groveling, haha "my leige, I bow to your superiority in this domain of transportation" haha, I love trucking, just giving you a hard time nothing serious
     
  4. ProfessionalNoticer

    ProfessionalNoticer Road Train Member

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    No way you're a motor carrier. Frankly, I don't even believe you're a lease op either. You sound more like a broker than anything. That brokerspeak flies from your mouth effortlessly.
     
  5. AsphaltFarmer

    AsphaltFarmer Medium Load Member

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    Haha, that's like saying "Research The Milky Way" when asked a question about Tulsa, OK.
     
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  6. gekko1323

    gekko1323 Road Train Member

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    There are ways to get around broker/carrier agreements. Now, unless things have changed, I remember from my Business Law class in college that if one party violates a contract, the contract is null and void. For example: A lot of these contracts stipulate that a carrier can only seek recourse from the broker; they can't go after the shipper. Well, if the contract states that a broker is to pay within 21 days, and he doesn't adhere to this, technically he now violated the contract. So a carrier CAN go after the shipper. Do you want to see a broker freak out, sweat bullets, and soil his britches? Threaten him that you are going to sue the shipper.

    Agreements also have a clause that states that you can't solicit a broker's customer. No? Well, I'm pretty sure there are ways to get around this. It's probably depends on the state, but I'm pretty sure that FEDERALLY, this violates the Unfair Competition/Anti-trust laws. Now, like I said, it's been a long time and maybe things have changed. So if anyone here is more privy to these issues, please chime in.
     
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  7. ProfessionalNoticer

    ProfessionalNoticer Road Train Member

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    Most Broker Carrier Agreements have a, "Survability" type clause that essentially states if part of the Agreement is breached then the rest of the Agreement is still in effect. Trust me, they are very one-sided in favor of the Broker only.

    Can't speak of the Fed laws but if the customer solicits you then it's fair game. There's tons of ways around their slave papers if you're creative enough to do it.

    Same goes for their ridiculous Hold Harmless or Indemnification Clauses. Most states have ruled them flat out illegal now.

    I won't haul for TMC and ATS/Sureway because they state they don't have to pay me if they don't get paid! Who agrees to this type of BS?
     
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  8. RefMata

    RefMata Light Load Member

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    I'm not too sure about that. A while back I read an article about a carrier who picked up a brokered load, got solicited by the customer, entered into an agreement to haul directly, cutting out the broker. Somehow broker became aware of this and sued carrier for the loss of revenue they suffered, won the court case and was entitled to a percentage of the carrier's gross revenues for at least a year, if I remember correctly. Gonna see if I can find that article.
     
  9. gekko1323

    gekko1323 Road Train Member

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    "Survability"? Well ain't that a daisy? Federal Law takes PRECEDENCE over any other BS clause anyone can come up with. They cannot nullify Federal Law. But of course, "I ain't no lawyer!"
     
  10. gekko1323

    gekko1323 Road Train Member

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    Please find that article.
     
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