Brokers want to track me....

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Commuter69, Jun 1, 2018.

  1. speedyk

    speedyk Road Train Member

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    Not angry, not a mouse (or sheep) either. There's traps that get emptied but don't catch anything, thanks for the food.

    Didn't hire on with a mega either. Thanks to lots of folks on here. Returning a favor.
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    The customer is always right.

    Anyone ever heard that phrase?

    How do you know that load tracking isn't part of the condition placed by the shipper, or the reason they use that agent (s) is because they have load tracking???

    Just trust me yo.
    Lol. Ok.
     
  4. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Dave, my trucks are insured, I have fulfilled the requirements of the state and federal government to run those trucks on the road.

    I have a contract to deliver the product on time or I have a financial hit I get dinged with.

    If the "customer" still is uneasy with my abilities to deliver their product and requires hand holding, I won't take their product because it is a form of bad business and wastes my time, and can cause me problems in the long run.

    See Dave I have to trust them to pay me, so they need to trust me to be professional and deliver their product safe, undamaged and on time.
     
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  5. street beater

    street beater Road Train Member

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    While i agree that you should not willy nilly download stuff, most of those permissions are basic to all apps. See my comments below.

    speedyk, post: 7367047, member: 162834"]Here's what bugs me about tracking and data slurping: I'm out there working for a living and some guy with nerdy glasses and a smirk on his face is sitting there with his feet up making money off my data.

    So you go to KFC and think it's no big deal, but he sells that info to them. You become a walking data generator for his company. And profit generator.

    Nearly the entire internet economy is based off tracking, snooping, slurping and advertising now, Facebook and Google are both advertising agencies, and you and your preferences are their product which they sell to advertisers.

    You want to go on strike, here's a place to start, you'll never be paid anyway. Use their stuff but don't give them data. I keep Location services and GPS turned off. It's not like they care about me, they care about what I do and where I go and who I talk to. It's an authoritarian dream, esp. to have it voluntarily given, to have people pay to be spied on. Read up on GPDR and the people who are fighting the slurp.

    I bought an unlocked phone, can go with any carrier, put a Verizon SIM in it, have no info or account on it. I don't save my phone book to the cloud (although Google probably slurps it anyway, so I use odd names for contacts that won't fit nicely in database fields. but are easy for me to recognise) and have no account at an app store, much less any apps.

    I did sideload Firefox because I can run Noscript and uBlock Origin and block all ads and pop ups, I use the Chrome browser that is stock from Google for stuff like Craigslist authentication when I want contact info for an ad, otherwise nothing of personal interest.

    But you wanna give away information that advertising clients used to pay thousands of dollars an hour to have gathered, be my guest. I don't like those kind of people (advertisers and salesmen, general shiny shoe types), and I'm not giving them any more freebies than I have to.

    My current employer wanted me to put the Peoplenet app and some other app I've forgotten on my phone at orientation. It would make it convenient for me, they said. The HR guy turned red in the face when I refused nicely and kindly.

    Here's what it does, right from the Play Store... do you want your employer to have this?

    This app has access to:
    [​IMG]Location



      • approximate location (network-based)
      • ^^^^obvious why.
      • precise location (GPS and network-based)
      • ^^^ again, obvious why.
    [​IMG]Phone



      • read phone status and identity
      • ^^ needs to ask the phone for id to put the name with the file that is your id on the other end, and status is quite literally is the phone on off or in use.
    [​IMG]Photos/Media/Files



      • read the contents of your USB storage
      • modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
      • ^^^ this one is dependent on what the app needs it for, could be as simple as the ability to take or use a picture for your avatar.
    [​IMG]Storage



      • read the contents of your USB storage
      • modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
      • ^^^^^ this one is needed by all apps just to be installed.
    [​IMG]Wi-Fi connection information



      • view Wi-Fi connections
      • ^^^ this one has to do with the base restrictions you put on your phone. None of my few apps are allowed to update unless im on wifi. So it needs to see if im on wifi.
    [​IMG]Device ID & call information



      • read phone status and identity
      • ^^^^ this one is the same as the other. But your phone thinks of them as 2 separate things.
    Other



      • receive data from Internet
      • ^^^ duh...
      • view network connections
      • ^^^ covered the reason already
      • full network access
      • ^^^^cant talk to the net without permission to use the network
      • change your audio settings
      • ^^if it can make a ding or alert, thats why...
      • control vibration
      • ^^^ same as above
      • prevent device from sleeping
      • ^^this has to do with the gps part...
    Now im not saying do it. Just if your gonna go all tinfoil about this, what are you doing on a open forum website in the first place?
     
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  6. shogun

    shogun Road Train Member

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    I would carry a selfie stick and detail everything you do. Send them short video clips. Here is me, checking the oil. Here I am getting fuel. Here I am responding to someone asking for a radio check, etc. Bombard their inbox.
     
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  7. street beater

    street beater Road Train Member

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    Just make sure you send them a email asking permission to send them updates. When they say yes.... spam away...


    They did say it was ok after all...
     
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  8. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Here I am taking a leak in the woods behind the ****** truck stop in wherever. :biggrin_25523:
     
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  9. Linte_Loco

    Linte_Loco Road Train Member

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    Thankfully I can afford a second smartphone for business purposes. Nobody I work with or work for has ever had my personal phone number
     
  10. speedyk

    speedyk Road Train Member

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    Trying to help. There is a difference between avoiding surveillance because of potential unlawful activity and avoiding it because of corporate tracking so they can sell your data to anyone without your implicit consent and knowledge of who bought it and why.

    If everyone stopped giving info away, and knew why it's important, the economics would change.

    Many of those silicon valley honchos carry flip-phones themselves, because they know --if anyone does-- what can be done with a smartphone.

    Those permissions do not have to be basic to all apps. A flashlight app doesn't need my address book. But there was such a mania about apps at first that people ignored the permissions and developers learned that they could sell my address book and text messages and photos and offer a "free" app. to harvest them and use my data plan to upload them.

    Now Android allows clipping some permissions back, but the app may stop working.

    Up to you if you do not feel your personal info is worth protecting.

    But you done been told about it.
     
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  11. street beater

    street beater Road Train Member

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    If you read my response, you would see im not willy nilly letting any old app do as it pleases. The "flashlight hack" got alot of people freaking out over every permission out there. And hate to say it, but most flips nowadays have enough tech in them to be just as susceptible to info phishing as a smartphone. But you wouldn't see it, texting requires data, data is data.... a door just as big.
     
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