It wasn’t a broker in the sense of someone finding a truck. It was a lumber wholesaler buying particle board from the plant in Montana and selling it to his customer, but he didn’t want them to know where it came from because he didn’t want them going direct to the manufacturer. Basically the cabinet place called the wholesaler and said I need “X” of whatever sizes of particle board and the wholesaler purchased it and we hauled it direct to the end customer instead of unloading at the wholesaler and them taking it on their trucks.
Buggers finally got me, double broker scam.
Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by PPNLE, Jul 25, 2023.
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It's a flaming pain, particularly when the Retailer doesn't let the carrier know it's a blind shipment ahead of time. I distinctly remember my first blind shipment. I was in Eau Clair, WI and the shipping clerk wouldn't give me the BOL even though I had all the right numbers and the trailer number matched because I said it was going to Ripon, WI. On her BOL the consignee was listed as Boca Ratton, FL. After much back and forth between me, Ops, our CSR, their CSR, and the shipping clerk (having to stand out in the drizzle because that was the only place I got cell reception), Ops finally tells me just take it to Boca Raton. Ran down to Mauston, got up nice and early and started running. Just before Madison Qualcomm blows up with "SUPER DUPPER CRITICAL MESSAGE", which scared the poop out of me. First shift CSR got in, saw the notes and freaked the frick out. I got turned around, got to the consignee who was PISSED that I was late and rather rudely taught me about blind shipments.PPNLE Thanks this. -
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So, customer has me set it up as a blind shipment. I tell the carrier that this is a blind shipment. They'll be presented with a bill of lading (which I or my customer has made) showing it going to my customer. When the carrier has loaded, I'll issue them a bill of lading from my customer's location to the delivery.
If everything goes according to plan, it looks like it's shipped from Cleveland instead of Chicago and away we go.Old_n_gray Thanks this. -
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what do they manufacture? I’m looking for a new venue.
I never got the manufacturer trying to cut out the middleman, they’re making a sale either way? I have seen that happen at a couple places. The people in the middle, get their ##### chapped, and the people buying it get a better deal.. but have zero faith in said manufacturer because they know they’ll scumbag anybody for a buck aka lack of business ethics.Jubal Early Times and PPNLE Thank this. -
If the shipper pays a broker $2,500 to cover a load, the broker gets a carrier to haul it for $2,000, and everyone is satisfied with their margin then why would anyone look to upset the apple cart?
The answer is in the shipping manager looking to get promoted/a raise. If he can get the loads moved for $2,200 then at annual review time he can say "I cut our shipping costs by 10%". Same thing for the carrier - set it up direct and increase revenue by 10%.
Like it or not, our current economic system rewards short term thinking and denigrates long term choices.PPNLE Thanks this. -
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But yeah, absolutely don't get it either. It's like, you take care of the people who brought you there.
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