Buying used truck from Freightliner

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Gulf, Sep 5, 2018.

  1. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

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    My advice, if anyone buys a USED emission truck, have at minimum access to at least $20,000 cash. DO NOT depend on these aftermarket warranties, as 9 times out of 10 they will cover NOTHING! Save that money and invest in either tools or sock it away for what more than likely will be a very unpleasant repair situation.

    Also, if you have no issues being a slave to a finance company, and or can pay cash, just buy a new truck and plan to be rid of it before the emissions start to fail, or get rid of the problem ASAP. Learn how to fix and maintain your own epuipment without relying upon a stealership.
     
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  3. Gulf

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    I haven't heard of the 2015 and up having the same DPF problems, or at least not as bad. I tried many various web search terms about DPF/Emissions problems and all the results seem to produce stories about 2013 and older emissions trucks.

    Yeah, I usually don't buy extended or add on warranties for my personal vehicles. Already learned the problems on that.

    I appreciate all the info.
     
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  4. HopeOverMope

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    The thing is this: they might be getting more efficient in polluting your motor in lesser way but the point remains the same; the egr is sending some of the dirty exhaust to mix with clean air which the dirty hot exhaust air turn into soot in the clean oil. The owner of the truck pays the price. That’s why in that video, the overhead cams take a beating because these finely crafted pieces are not supposed to operate under the friction of soot.

    Now they are trying to design stuff that can handle the friction better. Design bigger filters that need less cleaning. But at the end of the day who are truck makers biggest customers? Larger fleets who dump these trucks into the owner operator market anyways after 3-5 years. So as long as the truck makers can satisfy that time frame they’re good.
     
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  5. Justrucking2

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    BINGO!
     
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    Never trust the dealer. If you can't afford to put the time and money into testing a truck, don't get one.
     
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  7. Dino soar

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    I got a headache reading all of that.

    It just makes you love a big cam Cummins.
     
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  8. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

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    Try living it. ;-)
     
  9. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    Hopefully I will be living it soon.

    I'm getting ready to put my new engine in my truck shortly.

    I could have put any engine that I wanted to in, but the big cam Cummins is the real deal.

    The only wires on a truck that I like to see are cables to start the engine and alternator wires and your gauges.

    It takes time to work over an older truck.

    But the end result has to be way better than that plastic emissions junk.

    Trucks broken down, trucks catching on fire, truck constantly regenerating, engines being destroyed from soot... hey when I hear that having an exhaust problem can cost you $8,000- no no no no no no no.....

    Not for me.

    The best truck in the world you can Coast down a hill and get started and you can run Coast to Coast with it and it will never stop.

    To each his own.

    The rest is all complete nonsense and outrageous expense for absolutely nothing in return.

    And my other truck that I was leased on with had the Big Cam Cummins. That truck ran so good for so long and cost me so little money it was astonishing.

    And the heck of it is I kept it running with a screwdriver and just regular tools.

    Like I said. To each his own. But the rest is just electronic junk.
     
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  10. Hegemeister

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    Now the X15 is a single canister after treatment system. It looks like the exhaust goes into the box and out the other side. The system is mounted under the passenger step. Does that system recirculate the exhaust back into the engine? I don't see how.
     
  11. Justrucking2

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    There are plenty of issues on ANY truck, 2015 or a brand new one, if you do not keep up on the regular maintenance. And regular maintenance is not cheap. Sure, with a new truck you can go the warranty route, but if it is YOUR TRUCK, you should no how to fix the darn thing if it breaks. And if you have to take it to a shop, and we all do on occasion, you better darn well know what the heck is wrong with it and how to properly fix it!

    Here is my tail of getting RAPED. And I was. Losing coolant a few years ago, Indiana, -30... Just bought the truck... No clue on emissions. Dealer said it was a bad EGR Cooler... WTF is an EGR Cooler? Well, long story short, $2,500 later, three days lost revenue and hotel expenses, and beer... This was not good.

    I paid the bill, left, next morning a puddle of coolant under my truck and it was POURING OUT! I was at a Petro, rolled it into the shop, it was -30 windchill out... Screw crawling under it, been there and done that in the ND Oil Fields. Turned out to be a $10 hose clamp.

    Chew on that, and I am still doing just that.

    Learn the truck, learn the mechanics of it, don't be a #### VICTIM. They wait for us to walk through their doors, trust me on that.
     
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