C.R. England and Sons, Inc. - West Valley, Ut.

A debilitating stroke, requiring hospital care...which is followed by therapy, both physical and mental....is cause to lose the medical privilege of driving a commercial vehicle.

The attending physician at the hospital, and the caring physician for the extended care (sometimes the same individual, but often not) would be required to "sign off" and extend to the CDL medical physician, that the patient is clear to drive a commercial vehicle.

Also, CR England's house physician would need to corroborate the "all clear" diagnosis with the other attending physicians, also the medications the patient will be required to be taking, will require scrutiny and approval from CR England's in house and insurance carrier.

The "couple years later" is exactly what I was referring to. Whether this earlier stroke was the "leading factor" or "contingent agent" in the final "cause of death" is not known, nor mentioned....along with the actual cause of death is not given in the statement. We can only assume that the previous stroke was the culprit, and by the testimony (of the post) there is no real answer...it could have been a myocardial infarction, an aneurism, or even an infected toe nail...the post did not qualify!

 

My point (and I'm sure the point of others here) is that it was your husbands decision to continue driving, not CRE's. It is illegal to research disclosed medical records of a patient. CRE would not have known about your husbands condition unless your husband told them. All CRE knew was that he had a current medical card. Your husband made the decision to continue driving, not CRE.

Want to blame someone other than your husband? Blame the doctor that signed off on his medical certificate. IMO, you're right that he should not have been driving with his condition, but blame the doctor that signed off on the certificate.

I understand the passion for driving as I have the same passion, but health and family should always come first. Your husband should have taken the stroke as a hint to retire from OTR and to find something local.

 

i called cre for my brother i know i probably shouldnt have but its like the only company that hires from mass that trains.
the trcruiter told me .25cpm and no contract for company drivers meaning they pay for his cdl and all that i wanted to know they do have standards right? i dont want him to get AT restriction

 

here a bit of info on prime,

prime is owed by one of the England brothers,
when he first started out, he called the company: Pride of England, this was not good with the other two brothers, and sued, made to drop the England part

 

It seems that the Sons-0-Chester treat each other about the same as they treat their company drivers and lease operators.
Perhaps they're not gettin' enough fiber in their diet?
That might explain why they're overloaded with
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T ransit.

Can y'all just imagine what would happen if they got wet enough to produce methane and came within close proximity of an open flame?

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does anyone know of 'star' out of Illinois???

 

wow most useless thread ever thanks for the answers

 

Really? This thread has been alive a kicking since Sept '05 and has over 75,000 replies. You think all this info is useless? If you think you found your answer, then please, by all means hire on with them.

 

Amazes me how nobody seems to want to read anything. All you have to do is read a few pages and you would get the answers your looking for.

 

Interesting counter-point BatMan.
If the safety "problem" is a result of poorly trained drivers it brings to light another "problem" that the Sons-0-Chester are creating for themselves by their training methods.

When I attended school and institutions of higher education not one of the teachers and/or instructors slept during class. If any of them had caught a few winks in class, and let their students fend for themselves, they'd be fired, --- and rightfully so. Yet C.R. England's trainers are well known for sleeping on the job that they're paid to do. Instead, a trainee is a necessity for them to make their Big truck's Big payment. When that is the number one reason why they rent trainees in the first place, where in the order of importance do the trainees fall?

If your reasoning is correct it indicates that C.R.E. creates their own monsters that they then release among the general motoring public, putting them at risk.
But the Sons-0-Chester "preach" safety "all the time".

Perhaps if they practiced what they preach there'd be an improvement. Then again, with a company known to stretch the truth into a lie, --- how does one determine when they're telling the truth or when they aren't?

Bottom line, --- if the Sons-0-Chester were really concerned, they'd do something to correct the situation.
We're (still) waiting, ---- but not holding our breath.
IMO, the antics of C.R. England are prime examples of why laws are necessary. Even then it seems that C.R.E. works hard to find any loopholes in an effort to circumvent laws, --- including those intended to promote safety.
There's a reason why C.R. England has the reputation of being a horrible company. It's taken years to develop the reputation they deserve with no indication there's any desire to change it for the better.
Of course it's possible that the powers that be C.R.E. will see the light and change their ways for the better.
But, ......... what are the odds that'll happen?

They are what they are and only they can change that.
No changes would indicate that they're content and satisfied with their business practices. Apparently things are going as planned.
Ya reckon.