C.R. England and Sons, Inc. - West Valley, Ut.

Yes she wouldn't work for free. However England charged for every mile she drove. They did not tell a customer "Well we're gonna have a trainee on that load so you get a 50% discount on half the miles".

 

"Almost" makes sense?

It makes perfect business sense.
Every body makes a buck off the wannaBee, from the time the ink dries on the bottom line of the contract, and the training begins, allll the way to the end the contract, or they go belly-up, --- whichever comes first, --- it seems that the Sons-0-Chester are constantly withholding, deducting, subtracting, excluding, re-directing, collecting, extracting, ........... a sizable amount of money from those who agree to the terms in the contract, -------
To hold onto for safe keepin', no doubt.

There are folks who think that the powers that be, who are runnin' C.R.E., are a bunch-0-bumblin' half wits who don't have a clue how to run a Big truck truckin' company, --- and wonder how they stay in business.
I'm thinkin' they need to take a closer look and re-think what they thought they thunk about that. Make no mistake, it's no mistake. Actually, it's profitable.
Quite profitable I'd think.
But for the newBee trainees, it's like tryin' to beat the odds in Lost Wages, Nevada gamblin' casinos. The odds are stacked in favor of the house. Likewise with C.R. England's business structure. A Win/Win situation for Chester's Sons,
and something of a crap-shoot for their members of the
Lisa Log-Book Fan Club.

Why folks don't balk at some of the terms contained in the contract causes me to wonder if C.R.E. recruiters really could sell porn to a nun.

Your wife/co-driver/team member would, most likely, be a finished driver, ....... ready to roll.
A trainee is just that. A "trainee". SOMEtimes, a trainee's need for training requires total daily miles to be less than physically possible. It's about the trainee more so than the number of miles a trainer/trainee runs in a day. The miles will fall into place once a trainee's comfort zone is expanded, --- usually only a matter of a few days. Then concentrate on their drivin' stamina.

If a trainee is bein' pushed to run harder so their trainer can make bank, that's trainee abuse, IMO.

So, although at first glance paying for a trainee strictly to increase a trainer's H.O.S. potential may seem the same as payin' a spouse or co-driver, it's sorta, kinda, exactly the same,
only different.
One is there ready to learn,
the other is there ready to earn.

If I'm not mistaken, the Sons-0-Chester chalk that up to "poor work ethics".
With all that C.R. England does to help 'em succeed, what else could be the cause?

I'll tell y'all one thang, and I'm serious ----
If I was in charge of hirin' drivers for a Big truck truckin' company, and I saw an application from someone who survived a year or more at C.R. England, ....... I'd snap 'em up in a New York minute, ----- dinged DAC or not. I'd probably figure that the bigger the ding on the applicant's DAC, the better they are.

Mine mighta insisted on makin' more than me.

I don't blame you there, Ronin.
If you want, you can rent me durin' my off hours. Say, an hourly rate and 40% of the mileage pay. That way I could afford to sleep a tad sounder knowin' that I'll have income to count when I wake up.

It's weird that I agree.

YeS!

B I N G O !!!

Exactly!
Absolutely correct.:smt026 . :smt047 :smt037

The buck stops here, ............... or , there.

 

Agreed 100%. I didn't say I agreed with a trainer paying for a trainee, it just makes sense - business sense. They run on your truck, you pay part of their wages, the company kicks in half or so... and the truck makes money, the lease operator makes squat... so CRE has their hand in the piggy bank the whole time, every step. In fact, they probably have the piggy bank somehow sub-leased to whoever is holding it at the time.

CRE management isn't stupid, by any means. It's a great business model, except for that whole ethics and morals stuff that usually belongs in other business models.

 

But remember, as long as they tithe their full amount, they are "Good, Upstanding Mormon Businessmen in Utah!" No matter HOW many "gentiles" go broke because of them. . .

 

I am a phase 2 trainer. I was only clearing $700 to $900 a week driving solo. Some guys are doing $1,500 a week solo, but I'm not a good enough driver yet. I need to keep improving my fuel economy and do a better job route planning.

I clear about $2,000 a week as a trainer. Again, with more experience, I can take it higher.

Shortly, I will start hiring permanent drivers and get a second truck...

REYJAC



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"Some guys are doing $1,500 a week solo"

"I clear about $2,000 a week"

Just when I start thinking you're not a company shill/cheerleader, you come up with this total horsecrap. I'll be unsubscribing, this BS is just to much to bear.

 

Play poker, the house doesn't care who win's

 

Ummm..cough, cough, Yep I must agree, saw that one coming.....

 

I ran into a guy this morning that I went to the CRE driving school with and he just got into the intermodal fleet. His gross paychecks are $1100 a week and he is home every night with weekends off. So he is pretty happy now, also is solo now. He was a local driver doing the flex training but he finally got into intermodal. Told him I was totally jealous.

Him and I are the last 2 drivers left from our graduating class of September 2008. I remember that first day of orientation. People were sitting on the ground filling out applications because it was so crowded.

 

Here are the numbers from today's paycheck:

Revenue. 9,302.30

Variable cost. 6,065.90

Fixed cost. 979.56

Net check $2,256.84

My accountant told me to set aside $338.84 for income taxes.

If I hadn't spent 3 hours driving around lost last week, I'd have another $250 for the week.

You're a fool for doubting my integrity...

REYJAC