CA CARB enforcement for 2010 trucks and newer?

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  1. RefMata

    RefMata Light Load Member

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    I heard there's only 5-6 carb agents so not sure how they plan to enforce against out of state trucks. CARB enforcement is a joke, I ran my '99 FLD in and out of it all of 2020, 2021, and first half of 2022. Not once did I get stopped by CARB or hear or receive anything from them (they don't have authority to pull you over om the road anyways, they're not an actual law enforcement agency). I also know several other people with older trucks who still run older trucks into the state and out without issues or hassles. CA can enforce it all they want against instate trucks, but technically it's illegal for them to try to enforce it on out of state trucks (interstate commerce clause).
     
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  3. Diesel Dave

    Diesel Dave Last Few of the OUTLAWS

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    Please post that “Interstate Commerce Clause” we’re it says it’s illegal for CARB to enforce out of state trucks to comply. I’ve never heard of it.
     
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  4. Long FLD

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    And I’ve never known anyone, including OOIDA, to win any court cases using that as the reason. A guy from South Dakota got a ticket in 2014 for not being in compliance and I’m not sure whatever happened with it. I think it made it all the way to the Supreme Court and he couldn’t appeal anymore.
     
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  5. Yoster

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    One time I did see a makeshift emission compliance check station set up in one of the rest areas coming into the state on I40. They had the orange signs set up telling all trucks to stop before you got there. But they need an actual law officer there to have any enforcement power. They were on lunch when I went by but if there wouldn't be any officer I would just roll right through and wave.
     
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  6. Kshaw0960

    Kshaw0960 Road Train Member

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    I run through CA most weeks in my 1999 truck without problems. I usually enter about 2pm and park in the streets for the night. Never been pulled over or ticketed in CA and I’ve been doing this since before covid.
     
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  7. TallJoe

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    By what regulation and who issues the certification?
    Even if its only California, getting all those trucks certified is a daunting task.
     
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  8. Marmon110P

    Marmon110P Light Load Member

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    I wouldnt dare to be dumb enough to admit that I take a pre emissions or deleted truck to CA...ya never know who is watching here.
     
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  9. RefMata

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    And that's all CARB can do, just watch us continue doing that while angrily shaking their fists in the air at us as we're rolling in and out.
     
  10. TallJoe

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    It's been awhile since I had any reason to go there but prior to 2017 the number of trucks I saw there that sure as hell did not look like Carb fitted was substantial, i mean I hardly saw any difference than in other states . And not even once, I experienced nor saw an enforcement blitz, which is not to say that there aren't any now.
     
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  11. Long FLD

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    They don’t have the manpower to enforce the rules they have. It will start out on the state level and they will deny registration to state residents if their truck engine doesn’t meet the 2010 model. Then I can see them shifting the burden of enforcement onto the larger shippers and receivers in the state and having paperwork for them to fill out showing that trucks entering their facility are compliant. Could be as simple as having a program where your license plate and CARB certification can be checked instantly before being let on the property. Once they have the large players doing that for them it will trickle down to all shippers and receivers. I can see them going this route and putting the burden on the shippers and receivers simply through the threat of large fines if they don’t make sure only compliant trucks are allowed on their property.
     
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