The conventional Internationals and Freighliners sold here are a good 15% cheaper than the COE models.
Cabover ID Question
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Ducks, Jan 30, 2011.
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This new idea of conventional trucks with short hoods where half of the engine is under the cab is crap. It makes any repair on the engine absolutely a nightmare. No access to get to anything on that engine without having to spend half day uninstalling a bunch of crap that's in the way, and even then the cab is in the way of most of the back half of that engine.......can't move cab outa the way.
Darn it! If it's a conventional then give me the long nose truck, or otherways give me a Cabover any day......I'll take that COE in a heartbeat. -
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well, in a COE the cab goes up and the engine assembly is exposed all around, easy to work on. The same goes for removing and replacing the transmission. In a COE you have easy access all around the clutch housing from above and under. Use the fraim rails as a bridge for a rolling "A" frame contraption(easy to manufacture and small and light enaugh to kip in your tool box) which can be used as a crane to lift and support the trany.
In a conventional you have to crawl underneath and squeeze and peel the skin of your hands and arms trying to get at and loosen the bolts on the cross member and clutch housing in order to get the trany loose. Then more funn starts when trying to pull the trany out without a trany cart equipped with a hydraulic jac. And even that's not muck help if you're not on a smooth and flat surface like a shop floor.
So, don't tell me about hatches and the ease of working on conventionals.
If you're just a steering wheel holder and don't touch the truck other places then the door handle and the steering wheel, then I guess that anything will do just fine, but if you're an o/o that do most of the maintenance and repair work on the truck like me, then you come to appreciate allot a few things that makes your life easier.Scania man Thanks this. -
Yeah coe design has by far the best access for maintenance , it's too hard work on a conventionalise gearbox or anything behind the engine, ya'd want the hands of a fairy!
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I'd say COE design is better to fix something, but maintance is easier with hood, becouse all maintanance points are moved to front.
Yep, Volvo VN may be nightmare for mechanics, and FH too. What is good with COE - easy to drop tranny with crane, ore fork truck, especially with some really heavy transmissions like Mercedes EPS (late version of EPS is used on shaker, but they call this tranny Freightliner Auto transmission).
But as I know later all highway trucks worldwide will be of short hood design and they will look like a family vans. It is related with fuel economy. EU cabover is like a four way brick, but in EU they limit truck lenth from bumper to bumper.
http://infotruck.blogspot.com/2010/11/futurist-trucks-worldwide-inner-city.html
http://resurrectedrestorations.com/2011/06/page/10/
http://www.distrocars.com/2004-renault-radiance -
Which is easier, lifting a big'olle hood to check your fluid levels or lifting the grille like on the EU COE's??? Here only the Volvo VN has a one action in cab hood release. The others you have to go on each side and release the hood from the 100 year old design rubber straps, go to the front and put your foot in the bumper and pull on that heavy a s s hood, like in some of the classic models with a mile of straight nose in the front.
Yea, get a nose on the truck while the trailers are getting longer and longer and when they're talking about wantnting to go the route of road trains by coupling more trailers behind one tractor so the freight shippers would move more freight for nothing, while the poor guy driving the truck has to sleep on a bed the size of a 2" X 4" stik.
Brave new world we're heading toward!
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