Calling all veteran owner ops

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by bob_tayle, Dec 4, 2013.

  1. bob_tayle

    bob_tayle Bobtail Member

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    Wanted to reach out to the seasoned drivers out there. Am somewhat new to the trucking game and have been considering becoming an owner op. Done a bunch of homework already, but just trying to get some real insight into the daily grind as a small biz owner in trucking. Have some money saved up from running a small business in previous life, so not going to go down the lease purchase route.

    Any pros out there mind fielding some questions I had? Trying to connect offline via email or phone. Thanks.
     
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  3. dustinbrock

    dustinbrock Road Train Member

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    Haul oil, make real money. Otr guys constantly talk about being away from home too long for too little. Oil haulers talk about how to spend their extra cash. Drive to another state for work if needed.
     
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  4. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    If I was you I would get my feet wet as a company driver and learn from the inside and develop relationships and knowledge. Then when you feel you are ready you will be more prepared to make the jump. Learning things the hard way can get expensive. Plus if you expand and go to managing drivers you would have an inside perspective of how they think.
     
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  5. Dryver

    Dryver Road Train Member

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  6. bob_tayle

    bob_tayle Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the responses, definitely read through these. To clarify, I just signed on as a company driver with a small operator...not sure am going to do for 2 years though.
    Trying to put a plan together for later:

    1) Curious how guys really go about building a real book of business. From reading these boards for a long time, seems like a lot of owners ops rely heavily on load boards for awhile (brokers jam you though, like in every business). Did biz dev in previous life. Assume its a lot of outbound calling?

    2) What are the best load boards out there (internettruckstop and get loaded)? Do guys usually just rely on one, or pay for a few?

    3) What type of software/programs exist that are designed to help truckers? Seems like there should be stuff out there for routing, fuel optimizers, taxes, dispatching, speeding up weigh station headaches, etc.

    4) What's the toughest part of being an owner op vs. company driver (other than maintenance costs)? I personally like the independence of running my own show, despite, the extra work, so wondering where the real blow ups will occur. Doubt I'll be trying to grow beyond my one truck.

    5) What's the best type of truck to get from an age/mileage perspective? Can't imagine buying new is any way to maximize economics. Should I try to go with something few years old and ~500k miles? What types of makes/models have best mpg? Been seeing a lot of trucks with plastic runners on side of trailer lately, assume those are for aerodynamics?

    6) Are guys that run with branded trailers (big McD's ads on side) always company drivers, or do they just use somebody else's trailer and only charge for tractor?

    Thanks again, sorry if any of my questions are dumb. trying to learn.
     
  7. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Check the OOIDA website; it's a business organization for owner-operators and small fleet owners.
     
  8. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    The problem with dealing directly with the shippers is, with only one truck, there are very few shippers that you can service. You will almost always be somewhere else when they want you. Not to say it can't be done but you need to find a shipper in your locale that ships a short distance and only a few loads a week. You might also need two, three or even more trailers so you can have one at every pu and del point.

    Truckers Edge (DAT)

    There is nothing any better than Excel and your brain. A good mapping software loaded on your laptop is essential. I use Streets and Trips GPS version 2007 and have never needed anything else. There are others out there now but back in 2007, S&T was the only GPS for laptops that allowed me to create the route. I manually put the scale houses, low clearances and restricted routes from Rand McNally into S&T. It took me 40 hours to do the northeast.

    Other than maintenance, it's paperwork and compliance. You've got truck safety renewal, trailer safety renewal, IFTA renewal, UCR renewal, NMFTA SCAC renewal, transponder renewal, cab card renewal, NYHUT renewal (and the other states that think they're special)...all of which must be done annually. Then you have to file your quarterly IFTA and pay them. Then you will have a DOT audit to prepare for. Then you will have an IFTA audit. Then you have to find freight and invoice it. And then you have to fight to get paid (chase down the stragglers). And then you've got to pay your bills. Not to mention keeping track of all your receipts and filing your income tax. All in addition to the 14 hrs/day on your log book.

    Everything takes time and costs you money....nothing is simple......even something as simple as receiving your checks in the mail and cashing them is more difficult in a truck.

    Factor all this BS in when before you low ball any potential customers.
     
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  9. G/MAN

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    There aren't any dumb questions. It is better to ask than find out the hard way.
     
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  10. Dryver

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    Oh I forgot, . . good luck Bob.
     
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