Can a one man operation really compete with the bigs

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Rich_Trucking, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. Archangel2003

    Archangel2003 Light Load Member

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    what company section?
     
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  3. blacklabel

    blacklabel Heavy Load Member

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    Wow... i meant what a hood and spread were...

    And the company sections that dont say owner operators ....

    Keep reading it will hit you
     
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  4. Archangel2003

    Archangel2003 Light Load Member

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  5. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    It's the rate AND the percentage, as the rate is everything and the percentage is derived from that. Example, $2 per mile rate, @ 67% = $1.34, at a dollar thirty four your gonna lose your ###..... Oh, but you get what, 75%?? 75% x $2 = $1.50.... better, not much better, but it beats $1.34... but wait.... $2 x 87%, (what I get) = $1.74..... yeah..... and two bucks is sorta the minimum I haul for... Now, if I crank one out paying $2.65 up to Mass, well, then I can haul outta there for less, how's that? Take both trips, combine them, and divide the combined mileages from both legs into the combined gross, (or net), and you see what the whole thing paid... And, btw, I very rarely go to Mass with a full load paying less than $3 per mile and sometimes you can get pretty close to $4, but we'll just use $3 per mile for our next calculation... $3 x 87%= $2.61....Hmmm... Hey, what's LS get outta a $3 per mi load?? .75 cpm for a phone call... Landstar is taking the cream off the top of every load, why? Because o/o's like the ease of picking their own load off the load board... but, wait, I pick my own loads off the load board too, just not the LS load board that's already done my thinking for me.... please understand, I'm not trying to one up you, or put down LS, I'm just hoping others will be successful on their own. Lord knows I've learned the hard way, (When I was a brand new o/o my first lease was with a scumbag who promised he had fat rates, was getting 75% of $1.50 average (yeah, that's a $1.12) and being fed a load of manure, ("we have $3 rates from our better customers, just stick with us through the 90 day probation period....") So, I held on for 90 days giving exemplary customer service, what happened?? 90 days later and I'm still getting the same old CH Robinson "cheap and heavy" loads, and the story was, ("you're one of our top trucks, your truck grossed yada yada yada, why are you leaving us???) I'd like to save others some pain if I could. (and that's not to say you can't get CH to pay you, but you will have to negotiate hard with them, be prepared to tell them, "sorry, but I can't haul that for that price...", if they're wanting to move the load they'll be calling you back....) And develop strategies, I play brokers off one another.., I'll tell broker x, politely, what I've already got lined up and see if they want to make a sweeter deal...
     
  6. Container Hauler

    Container Hauler Light Load Member

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    A "Hood truck" is generally a 379 or 389 Peterbilt or a W9 KW.

    A "spread" is a spread axle reefer or flatbed trailer.

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  7. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Yes, it is the rate and the percentage combined, that makes it good or bad.
    You are showing your ignorance of LS's compensation package. But, don't feel bad, few outside of LS understand it and most just guess.
     
  8. cominghomesc

    cominghomesc Light Load Member

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    Trees,

    I am not sure but I believe that 67 percent is before fsc and if you have your own trailer you receive more than 67. If I am wrong please let me know.
     
  9. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    You are on the right track. That is the percentage of the linehaul only, plus, plus, plus.
     
  10. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    So what are the added plus's? Why don't you just set the record straight instead of always being so vague?
     
  11. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Because your contract depends on when you signed on. We still have some of the original Teamsters that are under the old two check system, one check to the truck and one check to the driver. There are many variables, it is not a cut and dried single contract.
     
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