Can a one man operation really compete with the bigs

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Rich_Trucking, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    I see, I forgot about all that goofy stuff from days gone by. But I think here and now in todays climate is what 99% are talking about.
     
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  3. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Comparing LS-BCO rates to outside carrier rates is a fools game. Just because you booked $3 a mile to the truck on a particular load from LS as an outside carrier does not mean a LS-BCO is booking it for $3 a mile minus 35% (or whatever contract they are under). The rate a BCO sees on a posted load will be several hundred and sometimes several thousand more gross than that very same load posted to outside carrier - this if the same load is posted on both boards. For example a 100 loaded miles run posted for a BCO might post at $1,000 gross so after 35% that driver would get $650. On the outside board it would (or MIGHT, we can never assume) post for $650 gross.... ......now this ASSUMES a black and white clear cut world where all things are equal.... The important thing to remember is ultimately everything comes down to what YOU as a driver are able to negotiate and one thing is for certain BCO gross revenues are ALWAYS more than outside carrier gross's. There are times when Landstar BCO will beat an oustide carrier on the "to the truck" rate and there are times when the reverse is true. Landstar corporate makes their money regardless... What you make is on you... But to sit here and say "hahahahaha, they take 35% and you are stupid for being leased to them" is kind of silly... There are fools running cheap as BCO's and outside carriers. None of that matters or is comparible... all that matters is what went "to the truck" be it BCO or outside - and, did YOU make a profit???.....
     
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  4. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    I agree.

    We need to see the LS BCO rates, and then we can compare what we're getting off of the spot market to what LS BCO's are getting FROM THE SAME REGION, and this is the important thing....

    How do we do that? LS only allows BCO's to access the LS BCO board....

    I know how, and when I get some free time I'll do it, again. I haven't done it in a while, probably almost two years ago was the last time.

    Anyway, the real trick is to get a fat rate and fat miles with it.
     
  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    A friend of mine is a BCO - if I want to see all I have to do is ask.
     
  6. Mrtbone

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    I was thinking if I started a company for O/O what would be the best way to pay. How about a combination pay so much/mile, than at the end of each month, after all expenses, fair profit. Take what's left and divide among the owner/operators. Take the total amount $$$ left and divide that by the total number of miles driven. Each O/O will be given this amount/ mile they drove.
     
  7. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't do it for anything but straight %.

    If I wanted a CPM, I'd go find a company job, not be an O/O.
     
  8. Mrtbone

    Mrtbone Light Load Member

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    This would be only for the company loads.

    Loads you find on your own would be strictly %.
     
  9. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    don't matter.


    I have expenses to pay as an O/O that a company driver doesn't have.

    You willing to pay me $1.50 per mile? I won't haul freight on a regular basis like that. Sure there are a LOT of O/O here that feel the same way.


    Or as they like to post.....


    "Say 'No' to cheap freight".
     
  10. Mrtbone

    Mrtbone Light Load Member

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    I'd be willing to pay $10.00/mile,
    If that's what was left.
     
  11. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    in the mean time, it sits in your bank collecting interest on my money.


    No thanks.
     
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