Can I be put OOS, fined, have points accessed for this?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by musicgal, Jan 2, 2011.

  1. musicgal

    musicgal Road Train Member

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    My gauges (oil, temp, odometer, tach, speedo) have been acting up. They're on, then they're off.

    Took it to Freightliner the first of the week. They acted up once, then behaved themselves so then Freightliner couldn't diagnose and fix anything.

    Picked it up Thursday, drove about 200 miles to get an MT and then go get my load. Next morning I drove about 10 miles to go scale. Everything was working fine. Started out and lost everything again. Stopped and messaged breakdown....was told to get to the terminal ASAP. Started off, everything is working, 10 miles later they all quit again.

    When I stopped 4 hours later I noticed that I had been kicked from "Driving" to "On Duty" and then back to "Driving" just before I shut the truck off. And my e-log had recorded a whole 20 miles.

    When I started up, everything was working again. Am now at the terminal where the shop can take a look at things.

    So my question is...if I were to get stopped by DOT and they weren't working at that time...would I get put OOS, fined, and have points accessed against me?
     
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  3. misterG

    misterG Road Train Member

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    In my opinion, which is worth what your paying for it.

    Yes, I think you could be placed OOS for faulty gauges.

    They MIGHT present a hazard to you and the rest of the motoring public around you.
     
  4. Flying Finn

    Flying Finn Heavy Load Member

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    Especially if you do not log it on your vehicle inspection as an enroute failure. Gauges after all is on the pti list.
     
  5. musicgal

    musicgal Road Train Member

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    That's what I was afraid of. So.....if the shop can't "fix" things then I would have to log it every day?

    Is there a way I could "force" the company to give me another truck? Would calling Safety get me anywhere?
     
  6. misterG

    misterG Road Train Member

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    Calling safety, may or may not get you anywhere. I would no try to "force" them to give you another truck.

    Personally, I might start by checking the battery connections for corrosion. Than look to the other obvious, weather exposed electrical connections.
    Possibly a loose ground at the fuse block, or a couple loose\corroded fuses.
    These could cause the issues that your seeing, they are also easy fixes and can be done just about anywhere.

    Though, you might want to ask a company mechanic to show you where some of these things are located to CYA, if this is what it is.
    Even if you already know where the fuse blocks, and batteries are located.
    In events like this remember to CYA, at all times, and document the issue.
     
  7. Crash935

    Crash935 Medium Load Member

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    Its dropping a ground somewhere, trick is finding it
     
  8. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    You'd have to have a pretty intensive DOT for them to check your gauges though.
    And statisticly they'd have to fail just AS they're checking you out.

    Your odds are pretty good about not getting caught.

    As we used to say in the cab buisness when dispatch gave us a dog to drive
    "Act like:
    1.) you've got a bloody knife on the passenger seat,
    2.) a bag of weed in the glove box,
    3.) a dead hooker in the trunk."
    :D
     
  9. Rollover the Original

    Rollover the Original Road Train Member

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    Gauges?
    On PTI?
    OOS for gauges not working?
    The ONLY gauges I remember being on the PTI were air pressure and they are NOT activated by the CPU or power except for the lights, they are manually activated UNLESS they have changed the FMCSA drastically since Aug 2009 and truck dashboards too!

    Yes, the DOT does climb up onto the running board after doing the brake check and will look at the air pressure gauges to see where the AP is and then tell you to operate the brake pedals until the warning alarm sounds and the emergency brakes set but any other gauges they could care less about!
    They can't tell if the Speedo is working at a stand still,
    they could care less about RPM's
    the same with how much fuel,
    if your alternator is working
    if the lights come on in all of the gauges and
    what the weight gauge shows
    or if the radio works!
    Being put Out of Service for gauges other than AP just isn't going to happen unless some moron tries to get that put into the FMCSA!!

    In other words you're good to go intil they get the short figured out and in these new trucks that can be a PINT if the CPU isn't recording what and wherefores! It can be so much fun watching a shop pull the wiring harness out of a dash!
     
  10. musicgal

    musicgal Road Train Member

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    Thank you, Rollover. Now I'm not so scared...LOL

    It really sucks being broke down right now because I have bills to pay and not a lot of money to pay them with.
     
  11. ursus

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    That is the part that would worry me the most.
    Even with a back-up paper log, is the DOT officer going to have an issue with the conflict between the paper log and the e-log?
    Would they want to know why the e-log is wrong and that brings in the rest of the electrical problems?
     
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