Can I just get another medical examiner certificate?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Jason Dunham, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. Jason Dunham

    Jason Dunham Bobtail Member

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    Yes...the sleep study again. I weigh 145 pounds and 6 foot tall. I mentioned I had a sleep study done years ago. They would not release the paperwork. I am not overweight nor have sleep apnea. I have been reading all the problems and money involved in this as many times they look for the smallest things to get patients and kickbacks. Try to sell you machines. Its problematic for me to sleep to begin with having wires and tubes around your body and it only takes this or that to mess up the test. Since they would not release my old records and want more business. My question is, can I just get another medical examiner certificate? Not bother with mentioning it to an examiner? Dumping money and lost time without work is killing me. To my understanding it is up to the "discretion" of your medical examiner to begin with and thats how I got my CDL A to begin with saying that you are healthy enough to drive to begin with. I am lean and mean...If anything I am closer to being underweight being half starved without work all over what is written on paper. I understand its for insurance purposes of a company and saftey but it is all unnecessary to begin with in my case. So again, would another medical examiner certificate and going to a different company be a more affordable solution?
     
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  3. Intothesunset

    Intothesunset Road Train Member

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    was it a mega carrier doc ?

    never mention snoring or sleep problems.

    might try a CVS pharm. clinic. some do a DOT phys.
     
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    TankerYankr Medium Load Member

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    It doesn't matter who paid for your last sleep study, your medical records are your records.

    Send a registered return receipt letter requesting a copy of your records within 10 days, and let them know that it will be turned over to an attorney if not received.

    If you don't get the records within the allotted time spend the $50 or $75 and have an attorney send a letter. If an attorney wants to charge more than that for just a letter then move on to next attorney, they all will consult with for free.
     
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  6. Moose1958

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    You can get as many physical's as you desire. The last one that hits the FMCSA database cancels the previous one out. That is not the primary issue. You did not mention how long that current physical is for. I can only imagine it is short. The thing is if you go get a 2nd physical and it is say a 2 year physical and NO mention to that 2nd examiner of the first physical is on the long-form You risk the chance of the FMCSA voiding out that last physical for doctor shopping.

    I am going to say this one last time for clarity. It is perfectly OK to get a 2nd opinion after seeing a crooked examiner. The FMCSA does not have a problem with doing that. The FMCSA also has no problems with you as a driver having multiple physicals to hit the database. What they don't like and will come after you for if they find it is (doctor shopping). So to fully answer your question, yes you can go get that 2nd physical, even not disclose the first one. You might get by with doing it and again you might not.
     
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    Yes you can. Do not volunteer information that is not asked for.
     
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    I agree, all the OP said was years ago. I know that some clinics and physicians are totally digital today and their more recent records are all that way. If these records are all on paper they might not even be in the office. I recently went through something like this while doing some of the last bits of probate things in regard to my mom after she died. Her Physician switched to a computer-based system in 2008/2009 time frame, and their old paper records were in storage and not formatted for easy retrieval. I got what I needed but it took several months.

    Another issue for the OP depending on what (years ago) means that sleep study might not be accepted today.
     
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    You should not have mentioned it. When you go for medical card it is always best to lie. No matter what is wrong with you do not mention it.
     
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  10. Moose1958

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    There really is not a lot of solid unbiased information online about Doctor shopping, what it is and what happens when it is found. This comes from the OOIDA website and I think most of us know the OOIDA shoots straight. I have removed the link in the body of the comment, but it can be found at the SOURCE. To save space I am placing the text in a spoiler.

    2nd opinion is Okay – Lying is not
    While it will not be free, a second opinion may save your CDL. If you feel a CME is being fraudulent/incompetent/or is just plain wrong, you may get a second opinion (or third), just do not lie or mislead. Here is a brief interview with the FMCSA Director of Carrier, Driver and Vehicle Safety Standards regarding a 2nd opinion. The following article about a 2nd opinion also references the interview with the FMCSA Director of Carrier, Driver and Vehicle Safety Standards. Land Line

    Example of what is permitted:
    A driver goes to doctor A. The doctor refuses certification for some reason based on the doctor’s judgment. The driver believes this is not correct and goes to doctor B for a second opinion. Doctor B finds no reason to refuse certification based on the doctor’s judgment. This driver is correctly certified for the time indicated by doctor B.

    Example of what is illegal - (“doctor shopping”)
    Driver goes to doctor A. Driver either tells the doctor about a condition the driver has which is disqualifying, or the doctor determines the driver has a condition which is disqualifying. The driver then goes to doctor B. At doctor B the driver lies about the driver’s medical status by not disclosing the known medical condition. This can happen by not honestly filling out the form or by lying to doctor B when asked about the condition. This example is illegal and not advisable.

    Do NOT lie!
    When a driver goes to more than one medical examiner, this shows up in the certified medical examiner database. It will be reviewed. If the driver gave the same information to both examiners it is not a problem and the most recent exam will be the drivers current status. If the information the driver provided is not consistent this will be followed up on and if found to be dishonest can result in disqualification.
     
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  11. Dick Danger

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    First of all never admit to anything. Never. Also, sleep apnea isn't just a fat guy thing, my sister-in-law fell asleep driving home one day. Found out she had sleep apnea. Severe sleep apnea, they woke her up in the middle of her sleep test and told her she had to do something or she was going to die. That woman is barely 5' and 110lbs.
     
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