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Can I log sleeper time like this

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Firebird, Feb 21, 2007.

  1. Feb 21, 2007 #1
    Firebird

    Firebird Light Load Member

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    O.K. Here's an example.

    I pull tankers so 90% of the time I am doing absolutely nothing at the consignee. Most of the time I sit in the truck and do a little paperwork and take a nap. If I am doing nothing can I log that time in the sleeper?

    I have gotten into situations where the consignee is loading into barrels or whatever, but takes 6 hours to unload me.

    I realize of course that this doesn't help me 'extend" the 11 or 14 hour. The way I understand it is it "pauses" your clocks.

    8am-12am driving
    12pm-3pm arrive at consignee, log in sleeper
    3pm-10pm driving (11 hours driving, time for a 10 hour break)
    10pm-8am 10 hour break

    This would save some time on my 70/8, right?

    Thanks,

    Dave

    P.S. thanks for the powerpoint split logging post. I printed it and I think I got it

    Of course if I am actually working, like unloading a bulk load which I have to log 2 hours unloading minimum, I would log on line 4
     
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  3. Feb 21, 2007 #2
    LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Yes you can log in the sleeper as long as you go to the sleeper!

    You was fine in the example above because you
    started @ 8:00 am which your 14 hour was up @ 10:00 pm. You did not drive over 11 hours and you did not drive past your 14 hour mark (right). Now what you could have done is only take an 8 hour break and then


    5:00 am original 14 hour (because you start counting from the end of the previous break, being 8 or 2, this case was your 2 hour break 3:00 pm)
    your extension of the 14 hour ended @ 1:00 pm (because you could have taken an 8 hr sleeper break from 10:00 pm to 6:00 am, 8 hours in the sleeper count over from your 14 hour by that many hours).
    You would have been able to drive 4 hours (add driving in between the 8 & 2 take 11-answer=driving hours available).

    But that was a you COULD HAVE SITUATION if you wanted!

    But yes you was fine, the only thing I would probably frown on is that you
    did not log any line 4 time at the consignee. I am not sure how tankers work so maybe you don't do anything, but the standard rule is it will take you some time to deal with loading/unloading. Also if you are updating your logs in the front seat you should be on duty! GO TO THE SLEEPER! No one can tell what you are doing in the sleeper, now don't stay up the full 10 hour break on the cell phone (bill can prove you on the phone).

    Did I answer you? I wanted to add the split breaking so maybe you could take a live situation and turn into a split to see if you do understand it and to kind of give you another step by step how to calculate it :smt109
    Thanks for understanding the split, I can not wait to figure out how to post more split breaking power points! I can e-mail it to you, but I need a personal e-mail address, and NO I am not a stalker woman! l.o.l.:smt043
     
    LogsRus, Feb 21, 2007
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  4. Feb 21, 2007 #3
    Firebird

    Firebird Light Load Member

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    Thanks, I got your powerpoint file downloaded and saved.

    Yup, sometimes I get to a consignee and do absolutely nothing. I pull up to the shack, the guard tells me where to put it, I back it in and do nothing for 4 hours. Some require that I (the driver) pull a sample and open the lids, and in some cases hook up some hoses, but once this little bit of work is done, it is in the sleeper for 2 or more hours. On those I might log something like 30 minutes or an hour on line 4 and then come up into the sleeper. Of course on the ones that I have to fire up my pump or air one off I would log as working because I actually am working, but I figure that if I really am doing nothing, then why not just log it in the sleeper.

    Dave
     
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  5. Feb 21, 2007 #4
    LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Yeap sounds like you have it! Now don't log more time on line 4 if you didn't spend it actually working. But if you did work, then unfortunately it is line 4.

    Sounds like you are a pro now:smt023
     
    LogsRus, Feb 21, 2007
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