Can I strap my spillkit on catwalk with bungie cords?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by NewNashGuy, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    It's good to see a student leaning towards the regulations but you've got to be sure you statement is correct. The reference I used deals with vehicle structures and anchor points and not cargo. Even so, a hose that's used for hazardous material can be considered cargo since it's required to have shipping papers as hazardous residue. You have a good point and if you can find a reference that backs your statement I would sure like to see it. I'm sure if you leave pallets unsecured on your flatbed and they went flying off you'd get a ticket for not securing them.
     
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  3. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    Then you do meet the requirements for having a sound securing point. I would just make sure that the tiedowns have a safe working load. Even bungee cords will say on the package what they will hold. It wouldn't hurt just to store that package just in case you have a hard inspector that wants to show his or her power. But since you're on the hose tubes I would think you're ok.
     
  4. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    Right. I could not find a definition for 'cargo' anywhere in the regs, but was hoping someone else knew where to find it.
     
  5. Truck609

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    By the way, for you flatbedders with dunnage stowed underneath your trailer......for years I secured my dunnage with good quality rubber snubbers and replaced them when they began to crack. Then with all the de-icer use and such, they seem to deteriorate much faster and I went to a ratchet strap. Last year a buddy of mine got a ticket in Cali for having his 8 foot 4X4's secured in his dunnage rack with a single 2 inch ratchet strap. The officer noted that the material was greater than 6 feet in length and therefore was required to have TWO securement devices. I know, picky right? Well, it was in Cali so that says a lot, but honestly in this day of CSA points adding up quickly, who wants to take a chance on that one picky officer?

    Needless to say it is a hassle, but I do use two straps on my dunnage now. Just wanted to throw that out there in case it helps someone NOT get more CSA points.
     
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  6. Allow Me.

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    I'd bet a weeks paycheck "cargo" is ANYTHING that goes in or on a trailer.
     
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  7. broketrkr

    broketrkr Bobtail Member

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    you can but it;ll probly piss off the cat!
     
  8. red_eye

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    zip ties are required to secure all locks on containers.. or if the DOT officer is being picky..he can get you for unsecured load..been there done that.. zip ties are cheap..buy them by the container full.. 5 bucks..
     
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  9. dude6710

    dude6710 Road Train Member

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    Alright thanks. I wasnt sure about it. They do have latches on the chassis that do secure the locks from moving I was just using the bungie as a secondary to hold the lock down. Ill just use zip ties from now on.
     
  10. GasHauler

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    It does and there's a couple of places that say the cargo and it's securing devices. It just doesn't list the extra stuff in the definition of cargo. The poster that is trying to make a point that there must be a different class or something for pallets, traps, and things, because it's not listed as cargo therefore the regulations do not apply, is just failing to use common sense. He'll learn if he stays at it long enough. He might even see how lawyers will find every regulation and combinations of regs to find fault. He will really learn if those lawyers are pointing at him.
     
  11. red_eye

    red_eye Medium Load Member

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    yea..just run the zip tie through the 2 holes.. and it will hold the latch from bouncing up.. I thought it was crazy at first..lol..those zip ties are not going to hold crap..lol.. then i figured out they are just to hold the locks in place.. :) I haul containers back and forth from pburg to columbus.. dot just loves us lmao
     
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