Can New Owner Operators get loads?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Soonerdoggy, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

    7,985
    4,371
    Feb 24, 2012
    0
    some will, some won't.


    Some need to have a 10 fleet minimum as well. You need to find the ones that will work with you and develop a rapor with them.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

    22,474
    20,138
    Jul 19, 2008
    Sioux City,ia
    0
    oh really?I did'nt know how that worked.
     
  4. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

    12,683
    23,164
    Jan 17, 2008
    Wherever and Whenever...
    0
    You'll do fine if you know the lane or lanes you will run....

    Your goal is to get to a Break Even Point or BEP....The BEP is getting a rate that pays for the fuel and all of the "incidentals" like your insurance....Tires....maintenance..permits....So on....

    And...That also includes paying yourself a salary....

    So many company drivers making the transition to O/O say will look at load from LA to NYC and see the rate is $2000...Thinking that's a "Great Rate"....
    But do the math...LA to NYC is 2790 miles according to Google maps....That means that "Great Rate" is actually paying .$71/m......Not so great when you factor in fuel costs and tolls....

    A load like that should pay at least $6975 or $2.50/m.....

    I know brokers will tell you that asking for a rate like that is "greedy"....But think about it....They're making 10% or better just for a phone call or two....You as the carrier have all of the responsibilities to ensure that load arrives safe and on time......
    You should be compensated for that......


    Now you being new....You have to prove yourself....

    Brokers Like CHR may not pay you well until you prove yourself as safe and reliable to them....

    That is not to say you should take cheap loads....
    Know what a run will cost you first and then negotiate the rate.....Don't allow the broker to set your rate....Negotiate....if they won't come up...Then thank them and move on...Many times...I have turned down loads I know that the broker was holding out and they called me back offering to pay what I asked for in the first place.....

    Sometimes in order to make your BEP for the week....You may have to do a Three point turnaround....Sometimes you may have to sit for a couple of days before the loads pan out....

    Don't "Turn the key to the right unless the rate is right"....

    Eventually you will find a lane or lanes that work best for you....
     
    haulit6272 and Soonerdoggy Thank this.
  5. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

    7,985
    4,371
    Feb 24, 2012
    0
    In the end, it's about covering all your fixed costs and the variable costs to get to that point.

    After that, the rest of the year is yours and the money over and above the variable costs are pure profit to you.

    You can do that with lots of miles on cheap freight or lots of revenue on low miles.
     
    mustanglover Thanks this.
  6. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

    7,985
    4,371
    Feb 24, 2012
    0
    I have a list of brokers that will work with me and some that won't.

    Some of them that won't are in two lists.

    Couple wants 6 months, one wants 12 months and I have one who is a strange one wants a minimum 10 fleet company.

    CH Robinson will take about anyone who has authority. We have hauled for them as well for the company I work for and they seem like a decent enough outfit to work with.
     
  7. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

    22,474
    20,138
    Jul 19, 2008
    Sioux City,ia
    0
    With the fuel cost I wonder how much of a profit do theyreally make.What I don't understand is why the broker does'nt tell them how much the load pays in it's entirety,they just tell them how much a mile they receive.Or do they know how much it pays in full?
     
  8. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

    12,683
    23,164
    Jan 17, 2008
    Wherever and Whenever...
    0
    They will.....They have freight sitting on the ground that needs to be moved from point "A" to point "B"......

    If you as a company driver had at least 5 years of OTR experience....You had been through just about everything you could run into (pardon the pun) on the road.....

    Now as an O/O....You have to wear several hats......
    Anyone can drive....But as an O/O....You have to be a business person first and foremost....
     
    MNdriver Thanks this.
  9. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

    7,985
    4,371
    Feb 24, 2012
    0
    I still run into things on the road that are new to me each week.

    They are less shocking and a surprise to me, but they are still there.
     
  10. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

    22,474
    20,138
    Jul 19, 2008
    Sioux City,ia
    0
    I always thought some companies prefer so much exp.,i've been driving since 2003 as a company driver.Without help no way no how would I be an O/O alone.I'm not smart enough to manage the books.
     
  11. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

    7,296
    6,031
    Sep 2, 2011
    NEPA
    0
    ...there's an app for that :biggrin_2558:
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.