Can you cheat an eLog?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Meltom, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Premise one, I agree. As long as there are goof balls out here, it keeps the enforcers from worrying about me.

    Premise two, not so fast (pardon the pun). If the most of the traffic is doing 70, even in a 60 mph zone, then doing the speed limit is inherently more unsafe than going closer to the flow of traffic. If speed kills, then everyone at the Daytona 500 would be dead. Speed limits are arbitrarily established numbers, and may or may not be based on reality. I don't like to run fast, because it costs me more to do so. But even I have to step up the pace once in a while to limit creating an unsafe situation. Then I can slow back down when it gets less congested and it is safer to do so. I assume you mean the speeder that is weaving in and out of traffic and being a risk to others. That I will agree with.
     
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  3. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Arbitrary to a point but instituted for a reason usually(sometimes just left over from a condition that no longer exists) based on expected congestion, poor sight lines, accident record of road, known hazards such as blind drives........

    But my point was is there is the permeating mentallity of "getting away" with something.People will get tickets for 62 in a 55 and say I was only a couple over. No they were seven over. Is 55 justified? I have no idea but the fact is barring a true speed trap(not what most consider one such as 65 north of Louisville ) limts are clearly posted and easily followed.

    I would wager a Buffalo Nickel that were the penalties non-monetary in nature such as suspensions, and that pleas were not possible you would find your scenario were traffic was moving ten over the limit would occur far less often.

    Yes there are stupid laws such as lane exclusion, and split speed that at times create far more dngerous scenarios than they prevent. Until we can convince enough people of their danger we all have to work with them and around them.
     
  4. Winluyen

    Winluyen Bobtail Member

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    Where in the green book that sounds awesome.
     
  5. freedhardwoods

    freedhardwoods Light Load Member

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    I'm 51 and I've been driving for 31 years. I have never been able to sleep unless I'm sleepy. Laying in the bunk staring at the ceiling wears me out more than just staying up.

    For me, driving 1000+ miles in a day is easy, if I can sleep when I need it, not when some pencil pusher thinks I should. I have never had a logbook ticket in my life either.

    Some people take time out from their sleep to do some work, but a lot of people don't work that way.
     
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  6. U2Exit

    U2Exit Road Train Member

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    Excuse me if I refuse to bow before your greatness...

    I relish the thought of mandatory EOBRs for guys like you. You arent so "super" on an even playing field.
     
  7. BlackLions

    BlackLions Road Train Member

    Wish I wasn't on elogs and could do that... this driving 600-700 miles a day thing is total bs!

    I know drivers that run about 4500-5000 in 5 days and are home most weekends... now that's trucking without bs rules... but not everyone can run like that. They also make in a week, what I make in three :biggrin_25513:


    If I can drive a car for 24hrs straight (Denver to Myrtle beach) and its not illegal... why all these strict rules for truckers? Ohh yeah, government knows better...
     
  8. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    if you are driving 4500-5000 miles in 5 days, that's 1000 mile days. And to do that even in a 70 mph truck is well over 11 hours a day.

    And THAT's just plain wrong.

    Back to the time of outlaw trucking. And yeah, I have ran like that a long time ago. When I came home my last time and had to wait for 10 days for my logs to catch up to me, I took my keys to the shop, cleaned out the truck and never looked back.

    Glad I did too.



    If I can't live on 3500-4000 miles a week, something is just plain wrong.

    Near as I can tell, I am going home for an awards banquet on Monday night for my daughter.

    I will continue to run on the hours I pick up from last week till Friday. I will then take a 34 hour reset and take my parenting time with my kids for the weekend.

    I should be pushing 7000-8000 miles in 2 weeks.

    3400 last week, 3950 this week and with luck 3400 next week. I'd say that's a good month so far.
     
  9. BlackLions

    BlackLions Road Train Member

    I'm just saying that the whole 11hr thing is not right... why not just make it 14hrs for whatever, driving/duty... If you want to run 14hrs, do it... Same thing with the 10hr break, its a waste of time. I go home to rest, if I'm on the road, I want to run not sit there for 10hrs straight...

    And of course they want to shorten the driving time even more... Pretty soon we'll be sitting for 14, working 10 total and driving for only 6 or 8.


    Anyways, I need my 5hrs of sleep so good night all.
     
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  10. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Then get your boss to put a letter in your file that says you can take your dock time in the sleeper off duty.

    I do. I get 10 1/2 hours to drive every day doing that. 6 minutes to walk in, turn in my papers and back the truck up to the dock is all it takes then.
     
  11. Jorihe84

    Jorihe84 Road Train Member

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    Alot of us that are technology savy know a few tricks. Like a few mentioned, ill refrain from saying. No matter what you do, someone will find a way around it.
     
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