Can you cheat an eLog?

This is exactly what the industry will come to.

I had the stupid qualcomm tracker at that last company and many times I stopped more than an hour left in the day. There was no guarantee I could find parking at the next stop and later hours.

Revenue generation by the dot is where they are looking more at this issue and seeing the potential for bigger dollars.

 

Justify it any way you want.
What was the title of this thread?

 

It is like flight planning; there's the primary airport you intend to land at, but you also file your alternates in case the airport closes or weathers in, etc., and have to carry enough fuel to make those (our 11/14 clocks being equivalent to the airplane fuel... gonna have to keep some spare for safety reasons).

 

(1) Except as provided in paragraph (h)(2) of this section, a driver who encounters adverse driving conditions, as defined in §395.2, and cannot, because of those conditions, safely complete the run within the maximum driving time permitted by § 395.3(a) or § 395.5(a) may drive and be permitted or required to drive a commercial motor vehicle for not more than 2 additional hours in order to complete that run or to reach a place offering safety for the occupants of the commercial motor vehicle and security for the commercial motor vehicle and its cargo

Y'all really need to learn these regulations. This is getting sad. If parking early is going to jeopardize the load being on-time, then you're allowed to go over. But, there can't be any stops inbetween. Don't go over if you pass by a Loves. If there are no truck stops, you don't need to stop 6 hours early if it'll make the load late. These are the occasions that I went over the 11 hour clock.

Poor trip planning, huh? You guys are amateurs.

 

Your really arent helping your case... playing really loose with regs..

395.2... "no parking available" is not an adverse condition.

 

What are you going to do, illegally park on the road and create a safety hazard?

And show me where in 395.2 does it say no parking is not a adverse condition.

Where on earth did you guys go to school at?

 

I hope you didn't have to pay for that refresher course you took, because if this is what you were taught you got ripped off.

 

Erm, 395.1 states exactly that.

(1) Except as provided in paragraph (h)(2) of this section, a driver who encounters adverse driving conditions, as defined in §395.2, and cannot, because of those conditions, safely complete the run within the maximum driving time permitted by § 395.3(a) or § 395.5(a) may drive and be permitted or required to drive a commercial motor vehicle for not more than 2 additional hours in order to complete that run or to reach a place offering safety for the occupants of the commercial motor vehicle and security for the commercial motor vehicle and its cargo

Where are you going to park if there's no parking? Why will you stop early if it'll make the load late?

Again, I'm only referring to customers out in BFE. In other words, there isn't a truck stop for miles; these customers are rare, but they are out there.

What I was referencing is the final leg of your trip. Lets say you're 590 miles from the customer, and the last truck stop is 10 miles from where you're at. That gives you 580 miles with no truck parking. Think you can make that on US-Routes with a 60 mph truck in 11 hours? Nope. Not even if you stopped at that other truck stop would you make it. That's when you use the exemption.

Using the same scenario:

There's only one truck parking area that is 300 miles away. You get there and it's full, or it's closed for construction. What now? You have 5 hours of drive time left and the customer is 6 hours away, with no more places to safely park. The load is due in 7 hours.

These are the scenarios that were constantly thrown at me when I was driving for a previous company (hense the keyword previous).

Only part of what I speak about on this forum comes from the refresher. The rest comes from experience. Don't let what I put in my bio decieve you as I have been a driver much longer than that. You would think that after operating CMV's for almost 10 years without any log violations, accidents, tickets or claims you should know what you're talking about. And it's not because I haven't been caught. It's because I'm always legal.

 

If you know you're going to be late according to your plan, then QC, or call disptch and tell them you cannot legally deliver on time. They will have to make arrangements, either swap your load, and have another driver deliver it on time, or re-schedule the appointment. You cannot extend your time (11, or 14) because you can't find parking. That's all!
e-log or not has nothing to do with it!