Can you solve 8÷2(2+2)?

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  1. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    8÷2(2+2)=y


    8
    --------- = y
    2(2+2)



    8 = (2(2+2))y



    8 = 8y

    All of the above equations are the exact same... Therefore...

    y = 1

    Put 1 in for y in any of these equations and they will ALWAYS workout correctly.

    And I've got more...
     
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  3. tommymonza

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    I’ll text over to my brother in the morning. Be interesting to see the answer.
     
  4. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    Here is the proof.


     
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    The answer is 16.
    Done!
     
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  6. Cattleman84

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    8÷2(2+2)=y


    8
    --------- = y
    2(2+2)



    8 = (2(2+2))y



    8 = 8y

    All of the above equations are the exact same... Therefore...

    y = 1

    Put 1 in for y in any of these equations and they will ALWAYS workout correctly.

    And I've got more...


    8÷((2×2)+(2×2)) = y



    8
    ---------------------- = y
    ((2×2)+(2×2))


    8 = ((2×2)+(2×2))y


    8÷2(4) = y


    8
    ------- = y
    2(4)


    8 = (2(4))y
     
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  7. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    Try to put 16 into any of the equations I presented in my previous posts... It doesnt compute for ALL of them... But use 1 and it always works out. Thats the beauty of math... when you have it correct it will ALWAYS work out no matter how the equation is written.

    All the equations I presented are the same as the equation from the op... Just written in different formats... And EVERY single one works out correctly when you use 1 for the unknown y.
     
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    I rest my case.
     
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  9. Cattleman84

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    More proof... Let's remove a 2 and replace it as unknown z. Then replace the unknown y with 1


    8÷z(2+2)=1


    8
    --------- = 1
    z(2+2)



    8 = (z(2+2))1



    8 = 8(1)



    8÷(2z+2z) = 1



    8
    ---------------------- = 1
    (2z+2z)


    8 = (2z+2z)1


    8÷4z = 1


    8
    ------- = 1
    4z


    8 = 1(4z)


    This is another way of checking the math... You can work it to solve for z... If it ALWAYS works out to be the z=2 we know it was from the original equation, then the answer of y=1 is correct.


    Now lets try the same thing using 16 for y...



    8÷z(2+2)=16


    8
    --------- = 16
    z(2+2)



    8 = (z(2+2))16



    8 = 8(16)



    8÷(2z+2z) = 16



    8
    ---------------------- = 16
    (2z+2z)


    8 = (2z+2z)16


    8÷4z = 16


    8
    ------- = 16
    4z


    8 = 16(4z)


    If you try to solve for z in these equations it does not give us the z=2 that we know it should be from the original equation.
     
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  10. Cattleman84

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    I dont know how many more ways to prove this one needs to see to believe... But the math does not lie... I have solved it using basic math, 2 different ways... I have solved it with algebra showing several formats... I then used algebra to check that a known variable could be found by inputting 1 for the the unknown variable... Then I even used algebra to show that the same known variable could NOT be found by inputting 16 for the unknown variable.


    Alas I give up trying to prove my answer... But I will stand by it until the day I die... Math does not lie.
     
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  11. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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    In further research, the confusion comes from the implied multiplication 2(4) and can cause confusion in the order of operations depending on how it is interpreted.

    If it is interpreted as 8 divided by 8, then the answer is 1. If it is interpreted as 8 divided by 2 times 4, then the answer is 16. It affects how you think about the order of operations.

    If you take the calculation literally and enter it into a TI-85, it comes up with 16.

    If you take it as an algebraic equation, the order of operations are affected and the answer is 1, as below.

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