Yes......
In 2005, I used a Chevy 3500 & a 40' gooseneck rated at 14,000, which put me over 26,000 GCVWR & got my class A CDL without air brakes in Louisiana which is the same a s NY or anyother stae under FMCSA rules.
In 2007, I took my written air brake test & upgraded my class A licence with air brakes.
They guy you're talking about is less than informed & like my son-in-law who though he knows more than me, will find himself in my son-in-laws shoes at some point. With 3 OOS & 4 other violations on one inspection.
No way he is even remotely legal with that truck & trailer with a class B licence.
Can you take Cdla test with dually and trailer?
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Alright yall keep messing the gvwr and gcwr up. Gvwr is the gross vehicle weight rating. Or the total weight the vehicle can weigh, including tongue weight, payload, weight of passengers. Etc. Same on trailer. It's the weight the trailer can hold, plus the weight of the trailer. The gcwr is the total weight the truck can have completely. Includes payload, people, weight of truck AND weight of trailer and payload. Basically the total weight it can have if you plopped the entire thing on a scale with anything hooked up to it. This is why most trailer axle ratings are LESS than their gvwr because its assumed you load the trailer correctly and put ~20% on the tongue for a gooseneck.
in order to take your cdl with a truck UNDER 26000 gvwr it must have a gcwr over 26k and a trailer attached with it's own gvwr of more than 10000 lbs (most goosenecks). For example a properly equipped f350 dually has a gvwr of 14000 lbs but a gcwr of 40000 lbs.
Side note. The gcwr is more important than the tow rating for this reason. If the tow rating is 32000 lbs but you load the truck up with a bunch of people and stuff and fuel and it weighs 10000 lbs the actual tow capacity is limited by the gcwr, NOT the towing capacity
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But how do you get the truck and trailer to the facility to take the test?
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What’s the point of having a CDL-A if you have air brake restriction or a manual restriction?
Mind as well take the test on a old manual Day cab with a 20 foot flatbed trailer. Get it over with, its basically the same set up as a dually with a trailer just a bit taller.flood Thanks this. -
Gross combined weight rating
GCWR
Over 26001 lbs That’s all that is required.
The key is combination vehicle.
You can get tested for a CDL with a dually and trailer.
It will be restricted. No air brakes. It may also get an automatic restriction it the truck has an automatic transmission.
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If a gooseneck is used there will be a restriction like the air brake, but for 5th wheel. -
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I have an air brake truck pulling 40ft gooseneck that has electric brakes, will the air brake truck keep me from getting air brake restrictions?
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