Can you use ELD on a glider kit truck?
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Cobrawastaken, Apr 24, 2020.
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When does the pre-2000 model year exception apply?
When a vehicle is registered, the model year should follow the criteria established by the National Administration (NHTSA). Generally, the model year is determined by reviewing the VIN on the vehicle registration. If the model year is pre-2000 based on the VIN, an ELD is not required.
However, there may be instances when the model year reflected on the vehicle registration is not the same as the engine model year, most commonly when a vehicle is rebuilt using a "glider kit" or when an engine is swapped from one vehicle to another. Vehicles with engines predating model year 2000 are also accepted and are not required to have an ELD, even if the VIN number reported on the registration indicates that the CMV is a later model year. While the driver is not required to possess documentation that confirms the vehicle engine model year, 49 CFR Part 379 Appendix A requires motor carriers to maintain all documentation on motor and engine changes at the principal place of business. -
Well, either way, it doesn't look like I'm going to get a glider anyways. I did some searching and I knew they'd probably be more expensive, but my God those engines must be cast from gold... I could get a Columbia or Cascadia glider if I wanted to but personally that's not my thing. Maybe some day, but not as my first truck. Would be nice to have reliability starting out, but I guess I will have to work my way up there. -
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Secondly, the reason I keep saying AOBRD is because if it is truly an eligible pre 200 glider than you can legally use a modern ELD in "AOBRD Mode." Using that older mode is less strict and legally allows more "edits" and faster than 5 MPH trip point, etc.
Thirdly (as was also mentioned here) you can use one of the few remaining "ELog programs" that don't connect to the glider ECM at all if you want. Keep Truckin, or Eclipse Logbook, or a couple others on the app stores are still available.
And lastly, even if the truck has no ECM connector at all, you can put in some brands (like Omnitracs) by connecting a red power wire, a black ground wire, and an ignition sensing wire. Those let you do the logs manually with your finger on the touchscreen just like paper, but they still warn you of violations and they make the DOT guys happy because they feel like you are more in compliance than paper.Bean Jr., Cobrawastaken and ZVar Thank this.
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