Carb forced me out of Calif.

Due to how the engine of older trucks run and how the DPF system works I would not put an aftertreatment system on an older truck. It was not designed for that and may cause more damage than good plus the cost of additional fuel burnt to "clean" the system. If you think that the newer trucks have issues then put one of those systems on an older truck and find out which one is more reliable.

 

The 5,000 mile exemption is explained at the link below.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onrdiesel/documents/faqLowuse.pdf

 

Just an FYI, California has yet to be brought to federal court over this issue on the subject of trucks. There have been cases in the courts over other regulations but not one of them approved the CARB regulations for out of state trucks and it should be thought of that if your state does not require you to have these emissions control devices retrofitted to your truck under your state law, California can not mandate them to access their markets for interstate commerce.

I don't know what the OOIDA is going to do about this, they should do something as soon as it becomes a requirement, because if they don't, then states can dictate to all of us what we can or can't drive on federally funded highways we use to make money.

 

I have looked in to doing a retro-fit on my 05 Columbia. It appears that the filter technology has improved a lot. I talked to one O/O with a retro-fit on a C12 Cat who claimed he has experienced no decrease in mileage or power.

What I think is a total rip-off is the cost of the retro-fits. A replacement OEM filter is about 4K. No way an aftermarket iinstall should be 18K.

My truck was wrecked (Grandma got run over by a Freightliner) and the other party's insurance has been paying to rent me a new 386 with a PACCAR motor for the past month. It sucks. 5 MPG & $30.00 a week for DEF.

I've decided to take the money for fixing my truck & pay cash for a 1994 or 1995 379. Those years are currently legal til 2016 with no retro-fit & by then the CARB situation will hopefully be a bit clearer than it is now.

 

You may not realize it yet, but it looks like California is doing you a huge favor by pushing you out with their pie-in-the-sky regulations.

Those long, coast-to-coast runs with thin profits never enticed me anyhow. So when California changes regulations; it may as well be Ecuador, Ghana, or any third world country's changing regulations. They are really a non-factor to be ignored.

You'll be better off as soon as you get your business out of that crazy place. Good luck.

 

More and more states are gonna start requiring the carb stuff so you might as well get rid of the old truck and get a new one or update the #### thing and be done with it. It the future you might as well embrace it.

 

NOT TRUE. California has MANY MANY other rules that no other states have "embraced". Here is one off the top of my head, how about the 15 day wait to buy a gun...no other, thats right, no other state has embraced that either!....sorry Ill stick with my 7 mpg at 75 mph glider and laugh at California.

 

There is truth to what he said. Notice all new diesel trucks have the emissions equipment now. Other states might not force older trucks off the road but the CARB emissions equipment is here to stay.

 

Even if other states eventually require a dpf, it could be years away. So why should someone get rid of a good, dependable truck because of what some state (s) may do years from now?

I think I'll just stick with my pre-BS Cat until I have a reason not to.

Btw, my truck is currently legal in at least 47 states besides CA. That's ok with me.

 

Im pretty sure production costs have more to do with that than anything. notice how lawnmowers have CA approved and not CA approved? its still cost worthy to produce two engines on the small gas side, ford and Chevy cant deal with one f250 let alone two different engines!

Im also of the idea that some day, some day we will all have these crazy regs, but to use that as a "might as well give up" cause some day Iowa may have California emissions is bogus. Other states are watching this and also noticing that Ca city's are going bankrupt!. should they follow that too!