Carbon Monoxide/Fumes inside cab of a 2016 PETERBILT 587 Please HELP

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  1. damomma5

    damomma5 Bobtail Member

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    This truck was a 2016 new purchase in October 2017. On lot new from the dealership. Have had it in the dealership 4xs for a total of 26 days. There have been multiple issues. Some fixed others not. Most pressing issue though is CO coming into the cab. The dealership claims there's nothing there, yet driver experiences multiple CO poisoning symptoms. (headaches, dizziness, nausea, sleepiness, confusion, back pain, chest pains, and hallucinations.) We've purchased meters and air quality indicators. Those from home weren't any good. The latest is a model that reads from zero ppm and up.
    This past weekend it alerted at 9ppm and then again today at 12ppm. If we take it back again, which we will have to, how can we get them to actually fix it? Should we get a diagnostic somewhere else first?
    There's a white smoke that he sees. No noises. No pulling on the engine, or loss of power.
    Gotta be either DEF or EGR issues.

    We have looked for attorneys to assist but as of yet not found anyone willing to help.

    The truck was manufactured April 2015 it has a Cummings ISX engine.

    Does anyone know of any other common issues with this truck or have any suggestions to get it fixed? ASAP this truck is not safe for him. He has to ride with windows down at all times and a fan blowing to keep the air safe. Whenever it rains and he has to close windows or turn on the defrost/heater/AC he gets sick.
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    I disagree with your assumption about DEF or EGR. CO is a product of exhaust. You have an exhaust leak someplace.
     
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  4. Sustanon

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    Get another driver,less sensitive to a little fumes.
     
  5. Bean Jr.

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    I am surprised that with the windows closed, going down the road, exhaust is that much of a problem. I would be more inclined to believe, if it is happening going down the road that there is a mold problem in the HVAC. Unless the exhaust is completely off under the hood, the concentration that would affect a driver shouldn't be there. A leak after the engine compartment will be blown away before it can enter the cab.
     
  6. damomma5

    damomma5 Bobtail Member

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    It's our own / only truck. My husband IS the driver. Nope, don't wanna get rid of him. And its by no means "a little fumes" He's driven 17years. he's ok with "normal" fumes. CO is deadly
     
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  7. pushbroom

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    One the newer truck with DEF, carbon monoxide is not nearly the issues it used to be. We can get away with running multiple trucks in a closed shop with no issues. Try running an old CAT in the shop with no exhaust extractor hooked up and people get mad at you in a hurry...

    That being said, the down pipe off the turbo cracking/leaking would be the most likely cause of exhaust in the cab.
     
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  8. Baty Dispatch

    Baty Dispatch Light Load Member

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    If it is def it will kill him in the long run. If you breath in def fumes for 8 hrs you will be on full oxygen in 6 months. I have seen it happen, also I work at Unical 76 and made anhydrous ammonia out of urea, the same thing that makes def. I have been trained in it and have seen a driver be put on disibidisa for breathing it for 8 hrs.
    If you have an exhaust leak you will see the carbon buildup wherever it is leaking. If you can't find it the shop can't find it.
     
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  9. damomma5

    damomma5 Bobtail Member

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    PLease tell me how the shop can find IT. What tests need to be run. As I've said, we HAVE taken in to the dealership 4 FOUR times. They say there can not fimdany exhaust/fumes.
    We know this is dangerous. Thank you for understanding
     
  10. Baty Dispatch

    Baty Dispatch Light Load Member

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    The only thing I can think of since you've already looked visually and the shop has looked visually. Use that meter you have around the motor and see where the parts per million are higher then search that area. If that helps let me know.
     
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  11. damomma5

    damomma5 Bobtail Member

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    Thats a good idea. We'll try to get that and see how that works out. We've made a few videos of the "soot" on certain parts of the motor. So, those could be areas that we could place the CO meter.
     
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